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Old 11-02-2009, 10:46 AM
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When I do inspections I use my plastic pen to move wires in a box. Its not fool proof but it helps.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:14 PM
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I'm with Gus on this one. If I knew that they were gutting the house the panel would not have gotten power until final inspection.

I believe that is a jurisdictional issue.
Where we work, the service can be energized as soon as it is completed, even before the roughing starts. Many contractors will try to do this to eliminate the need for temp power.
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It is, and they try it here too, but we're trying to keep everyone safe.
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It is, and they try it here too, but we're trying to keep everyone safe.


Protecting all if they need it or not.

We would get a service inspection and engergize that, I don't think there is anything in the NEC to prohibit that regardless of what may or may not be done.
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Not a bad job, they already heard about me so they got some help and were pretty much ready to go. .
First of all, thanks for reminding us to always check for power on.
And by the above, I think what you mean is you enforce the code.
Thanks for that as well.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:23 PM
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Protecting all if they need it or not.

We would get a service inspection and engergize that, I don't think there is anything in the NEC to prohibit that regardless of what may or may not be done.
What do you need the power for? Nothings hooked up. Hook it all up and then call me.

Just trying to keep Mr. Smith from being the late Mr. Smith.

I bet that most of us here have a story of how we got shocked and most of them will contain the comment, or one like it, "I didn't know it was hot."
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Around here, we can request a service inspection, which requires a complete electrode system, panel EGCs and groundeds made up, and a single-receptacle outlet (such as laundry) with GFCI protection.

While I'm not sure if it's required, I also make up all my device and equipment boxes, the EGCs and groundeds. Plus, I like to prepare the ungrounded wires and pigtails for trim-out at this time.
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I had one inspector scream at me over the phone "Who's going to push the button?"

ROFLMAO

Reinforcing the old stereotype
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Around here, we can request a service inspection, which requires a complete electrode system, panel EGCs and groundeds made up, and a single-receptacle outlet (such as laundry) with GFCI protection.

While I'm not sure if it's required, I also make up all my device and equipment boxes, the EGCs and groundeds. Plus, I like to prepare the ungrounded wires and pigtails for trim-out at this time.
I don't strip the ungrounded, because they will get painted. Also, sometimes the money runs out and you might not trim it out for a few years, or never. So I always do bare minimum on rough in. I wasted time and money before doing too much.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:40 PM
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Here we get power on the service inspection.

My practice has been to shut down all circuits and the main for rough in unless the need exists for a receptacle. In that case it would be a single receptacle circuit, the rest would be off.

Until I meet an inspector I don't like, the above will be the case.
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