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    Quote Originally Posted by iwire View Post
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    I meant the what I stated regarding other plugged in devices. I am sure the facts the OP stated are true and are not in doubt.

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    There are a few unstated facts here as well.

    The OP is a firefighter. So am I. We work for the fire department. 90% of the job is FIRE PROTECTION. Not FIRE PREVENTION. Prevention is key.

    Prevention is eliminating the threat. We cannot eliminate the root cause: People.

    What is the next closest step to the idiot with a lint problem? The lint itself.

    We cannot eliminate lint, not completely at least.

    Then we have the dryer. It does not care what you put in the dryer, but we can regulate it internally. What about the humidistat idea stated before. Sounds good, but I have additional idea. A thermal fuse. If we can stop heat from building up in the dryer, then we PREVENTED a fire. Now we don't need a heat detector to tell us HEY, stupid, the house is on fire, get out.

    Now Let's look at the result of a thermal fuse tripping due to improper lint removal. The dryer operator can no longer dry their clothes. They will either call a technician in to repair it, or replace the unit. Either way the fire was prevented.

    Let's assume for argument's sake, a repair man was called in. Also let's assume its a decent repair man ( I am not here to debate the efficacy of dryer repair men.)

    He will find a blown thermal fuse, determine the cause was the lint. He will then inform the dryer operator, they caused the problem by not cleaning out the lint. FINALLY, we got someone to address the root cause of the problem; The operator.

    Now, I do not assume that this will prevent all dryer problems, fuses will not operate properly etc. but it addresses the problem at the ROOT CAUSE.

    Also, I hear someone out there saying, but the dryer manufacturer's will balk at it. Sure, but the first one that puts it in will market it as a dryer safer than any other dryer. They would be right, eventually all manufacturers will adopt it to be competitive.

    If we add safety features to the dryer, we will not have to rewire our houses. It is a cheaper method and it deals directly with preventing, not putting out fires.
    Last edited by nhfire77; 12-21-09 at 10:51 AM.

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    I will not run my dryer when i am not home or sleeping . We put our faith in our technology and i believe we get complacent. . I just don't see anybody doing proper maintenance on anything. Ive gone to many residences where the panel hasn't ever been looked at cleaned . A response would be i got smoke detectors of coarse those smoke detectors are over 10 years old. I have never been called to an occupied residence just to give a house an electrical check up or while there for a repair could you check out my electrical system I guess its bill paranoia . We have insurance for everything you can think of . I don't have to take care of myself i have health insurance. There is a point to personal responsibility technology as a good thing for making are live more comfortable may not be making us smarter or healthier . information and education may be the best tools for complacency .

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    the fact is, dirty filter buildup sensors are fairly common these days. Heck, my central vac has an indicator. I don't see why dryer manufacturers haven't done anything about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV ELECTRIC View Post
    I will not run my dryer when i am not home or sleeping . We put our faith in our technology and i believe we get complacent. . I just don't see anybody doing proper maintenance on anything. Ive gone to many residences where the panel hasn't ever been looked at cleaned . A response would be i got smoke detectors of coarse those smoke detectors are over 10 years old. I have never been called to an occupied residence just to give a house an electrical check up or while there for a repair could you check out my electrical system I guess its bill paranoia . We have insurance for everything you can think of . I don't have to take care of myself i have health insurance. There is a point to personal responsibility technology as a good thing for making are live more comfortable may not be making us smarter or healthier . information and education may be the best tools for complacency .
    Are you advocating (gasp), prevention? I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhfire77 View Post
    The OP is a firefighter. So am I. We work for the fire department. 90% of the job is FIRE {JOB} PROTECTION. Not FIRE PREVENTION. Prevention is key.

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    There, I fixed that for you.

    Anyway, I don't understand how, or why anyone would argue against something like this that just makes perfect sense given the facts. :confused:

    The facts are dryer fires are numerous, smoke detectors save lives, smokes are required in all hallways, basements, stairways, bedrooms, and other rooms if the square footage is large enough the the hall smokes don't cover it all. Heat detectors are required in garages and carbon moxide detectors are required throughout a dwelling. All of these devices have to be interconnected and have a battery backup. Adding a heat in the laundry area would be cheap and would actually be a code change that makes sense.


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    I am not sure what you are inferring with inserting job there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhfire77 View Post
    I am not sure what you are inferring with inserting job there.
    Not you personally, just a broad generalization.
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    Again generalization of what?

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    DON'T FEAR THE DRYER! I run it when I'm sleeping or not at home. If it lights up, it lights up. That's what smoke alarms are for. I see no need to add a additional heat/smoke detector above a laundry space. Our current level of smoke detector coverage seems adequate to me. I think maintaining operating smoke alarms in your residence is much more important than adding more detector requirements.

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