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Thread: The white coiled wire attached to an AFCI

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    The manufacturer doesn't know where on the bussbar the installer will be placing the breaker.
    So, they provide a long enough tail to reach the neutral bar.
    They coil it to make it smaller packaging.

    When I see a GFCI or AFCI breaker installed with the neutral coiled up and never trimed to fit, I can't help but think that it looks, well, amateuristic
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    Why not to cut the coiled wire on a breaker.

    The white coiled wire on any breaker is made that way so you can uncoil it to reach to the propper location in the panel that it will be terminated, other then that the only reason you wouldn't cut the wire is because if the breaker doesn't outlast the warrenty then by cutting the wire may give them a reason not to take it back.

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    I try to locate the breaker far away from where the white wire will be terminated on the nuetral bar so when I uncoil the wire it doesn't have to be cut and it can be neat at the same time.

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    I install the breaker where I want it, uncoil the wire, and trim it if needed.
    Code references based on 2005 NEC
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    Smile

    I don't spend much time thinking about it Too busy running a business.

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    Way to much monkey see monkey do in this trade its good to ask these questions as it helps us become better teachers.
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    I usually stick my screwdriver in the coil, hold the wire where it comes out of the breaker and pull. If the neutral bar terminal I use is very near the breaker, I will leave the coil in the middle somewhere. After all, you never know what will happen in the future and you may be there re-arranging breakers someday!

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    Cool , thanks for the replies.

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    Wire nut and tail at that point. Rarely is that ever needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty View Post

    When I see a GFCI or AFCI breaker installed with the neutral coiled up and never trimed to fit, I can't help but think that it looks, well, amateuristic
    That's the same thing I thought when I read your post.
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