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ASK_EDDIE

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looking for estimate for running 200' of rigid . ceiling height 20', level of difficulty
from 1-10 = 8+ . I have the material ect. i just dont know the time factor of running and threading 1-1/4 rigid. thanks
 

Rockyd

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Need info. How far from the shop? Are you building a rack on all-thread, or just sticking it to a piece of 1-5/8" strut, or can you go direct to the overhead? Assume your going to be on a Genie rolling lift, or is this on scaffolding? Do you need to cut and thread any pieces? If so, if one or two pieces, a hand threader will do in a pinch, otherwise thinking a tri-stand and a 700, die, and oil pot, and rags! Any bends? factory fittings, a Chicago, or a 555 Greenlee?

With what i have...anything from one day to up three days. Way too many variables that come to mind. Narrow it down, and some answers should be forth coming.
 

ASK_EDDIE

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this is a food plant, i will be able to set up right outside the work area on the one end
i will have to use a genie lift , yes there will cutting and threading, i have a 700 threader set up. It is not a clear shot by any means . 30' will be on perlin then 90* on to sheetrock fo 30' then 90* to transition to an unlevel peak in the center red iron beam for 80' transition to a flat metal wall.
 

growler

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With what i have...anything from one day to up three days. Way too many variables that come to mind. Narrow it down, and some answers should be forth coming.

I was thinking a minimum of two days for a journeyman and helper. If this is an operational food plant it may be difficult to get were you need to be at any given time and a ground man would be needed just for safety. Probably have to spend time just ropping off work area.

It can go a lot slower than most people would think just because of trying to do the work in an operational environment and keeping everyone safe.
 

Rockyd

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6 to 9 hours per hundred under normal conditions - but then your saying nothing is easy? Mobiize and demob each day (active plant)? I agree with growler. Sixty feet a day (thinking 8 hr) might be big, but two guys, sounds reasonable without actually being there.

200/60 = 3.33days = 26.66Man hours

27/16 hours =1.68 days for two guys - it'll be two by the time all is said and done.

Bill ruffner of turbobid is part of the forum if you want to look himup.

Here is another option -http://www.electrical-estimating.com/

Good luck with your project.
 
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sameguy

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I would try to keep it as stright as I could; hangers/rod are cheap compared to labor.
Will you be filling the pipe with any wire? If so how many pull points?
2 men for sure, your call on time, any pre job briefs or other stuff that must be done to be in the plant? Drug test etc.
 

ASK_EDDIE

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the job is only about 10 mins away from the shop, I actually do quite a bit of work for this plant, so i know all the in and outs for this plant. They have just now switch to an all rigid policy and this is the first project i done since the policy started. I have done rigid jobs in my youth as a helper and a journeyman, but i never have Bid one for My own company so i was looking for input on the type of man hours .... my own thoughts at were that it was going to take 2 days 2men.
the rest of the project is installing a new 480volt 100 amp 3phase panel for a 3 battery chargers for the forklifts. The total cost of the material pipe,wire,lb, unistrut , hangers ect is 2000 grand.the 24 circuit 3 phase panel with breakers is
right at 1000.00. lift rental is 400.for a week.
 

Rockyd

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I'll take that as not a bad guesstimate for being 4ooo+ miles away (Anchorage ,Alaska). That your in Texas means you don't have to worry about stocking your pipe a day early (pipe bends better when it's warm). Or any other environmental hassles.

Let us know how we did! I assumed your both pretty good at getting "the action" going...
 

hurk27

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the job is only about 10 mins away from the shop, I actually do quite a bit of work for this plant, so i know all the in and outs for this plant. They have just now switch to an all rigid policy and this is the first project i done since the policy started. I have done rigid jobs in my youth as a helper and a journeyman, but i never have Bid one for My own company so i was looking for input on the type of man hours .... my own thoughts at were that it was going to take 2 days 2men.
the rest of the project is installing a new 480volt 100 amp 3phase panel for a 3 battery chargers for the forklifts. The total cost of the material pipe,wire,lb, unistrut , hangers ect is 2000 grand.the 24 circuit 3 phase panel with breakers is
right at 1000.00. lift rental is 400.for a week.

Did you include fusible 3-phase disconnects for the chargers? some require fuses for OCPD might want to check with the manufacture on this, other wise not needed if within site of the panel. $2k is tight for material, the wire and conduit is close to $1500 by itself with no markup.
I would say 200' of 1 1/4" ridge conduit with 3 #3 thhns is going to be a tuff pull, and I hope you dont need a neutral. I would still run 1 1/2" at the smallest.
 
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sameguy

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Hurk, most of our jobs are "drug free" and some have pre and random testing at the site or at where they send you to.
 

Rockyd

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So how did all of us long distance estimaters do??? That is assuming the job is done...
 

roger

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Drug test??:confused:

That was kind of a strange thing to throw in there:grin:
Wayne, drug testing and safety orientations can actually be quite expensive as far as employee payrole and should be figured in as non-productive labor. We have a number of jobs going with more than 100 employees that have sat through 1/2 to 3/4 of a day of safety training and drug testing before being allowed on the job sites.

Roger
 

ASK_EDDIE

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I have sumitted the bid , but no word back yet, it came in at about 8700.00 so they may take a longer look at what they want to do.
 

Fulthrotl

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this is a food plant, i will be able to set up right outside the work area on the one end
i will have to use a genie lift , yes there will cutting and threading, i have a 700 threader set up. It is not a clear shot by any means . 30' will be on perlin then 90* on to sheetrock fo 30' then 90* to transition to an unlevel peak in the center red iron beam for 80' transition to a flat metal wall.

food plants can cost more than it appears.. i've done a lot of ocal in them.

assuming this isn't ocal, i would figure it at 3 days by myself. i'd also do rod
and minnies, and run level and fast.

last week, i did 1" emt across a warehouse, using beam clamps and minnies.
out the panel, up to 30', 610' to the end of the building, down to xfmr on wall.
655' total took 7 hours. minnies and beamclamps rock.
 

LarryFine

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What are minnies?
Mineralac straps:

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