MRKN
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- California, USA
Hi, friend has a pool with 52" water depth which qualifies as permanently installed under the definitions of 680 despite the manufacturers intention of being taken down for winter months. He has also taken it upon himself to upgrade the pump to a salt water system kit which comes with a 25' cord connected motor, in direct violation of 680.21(A)(3).
Is it acceptable to still locate a specific-purpose GFCI single-receptacle within 3’ of the pump and coil the excess leads up?
Is there any reason he cannot install UFB 18” underground to feed this new receptacle? He must traverse his backyard.
Lastly, he is interested in making the connection not at the panel with a new GFCI breaker, but instead coming off an existing receptacle inside a room in his house (which is closest to the pool), installing a new outdoor convenience receptacle just outside this same wall, and then furthermore continuing on underground via UFB to the pool pump receptacle. The existing circuit is a 15A, and the FLA of the pump is 7.5A, so it seems “plausible”, but I have no experience with residential wiring methods. I do not have information on how many receptacles are fed from this breaker.
I’ve tried calling the pool manufacturer for their recommendations seeing that they’re selling a pool which qualifies as permanently installed under the NEC and thus triggers a whole host of additional requirements, but have sat on the line for 15 minutes twice before giving up.
I am specifically looking for a reason to either force him to run a circuit all the way to the sub-panel, or require PVC/RMC (I am hesitant about UFB, although apparently it’s rated for direct burial).
Is it acceptable to still locate a specific-purpose GFCI single-receptacle within 3’ of the pump and coil the excess leads up?
Is there any reason he cannot install UFB 18” underground to feed this new receptacle? He must traverse his backyard.
Lastly, he is interested in making the connection not at the panel with a new GFCI breaker, but instead coming off an existing receptacle inside a room in his house (which is closest to the pool), installing a new outdoor convenience receptacle just outside this same wall, and then furthermore continuing on underground via UFB to the pool pump receptacle. The existing circuit is a 15A, and the FLA of the pump is 7.5A, so it seems “plausible”, but I have no experience with residential wiring methods. I do not have information on how many receptacles are fed from this breaker.
I’ve tried calling the pool manufacturer for their recommendations seeing that they’re selling a pool which qualifies as permanently installed under the NEC and thus triggers a whole host of additional requirements, but have sat on the line for 15 minutes twice before giving up.
I am specifically looking for a reason to either force him to run a circuit all the way to the sub-panel, or require PVC/RMC (I am hesitant about UFB, although apparently it’s rated for direct burial).
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