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When a person rents a place without any grounded outlets do they have any recourse to demand a few grounded outlets be installed? Assuming no grounds are available (old two wire only wiring).
I am only talking one or two outlets for items such as the Refrigerator and possibly a Microwave oven?
With the understanding that GFCI's could be installed to meet certain needs(in lieu of a equipment ground conductor) , what about some equipment that states on the device that it must be grounded?
The Microwave being the most notorious. From reading other posts on similar subjects I also heard refrigerators mentioned.
It would be my understanding that items with such a "ground required" label could not be operated on a GFCI only. The ground is mandatory?
Assuming the above is true ,then what do people do when they rent and there are no grounded outlets? Of course (for the most part) they are not interested in paying an electrician to install grounded wiring to outlets themselves. May not even be allowed by the landlord, if they were willing to fund it themselves?
What would the landlord be responsible for if anything? I could see them refusing to install grounded circuits for anything not necessarily needed (including a Microwave or Air Conditioner).
I would think that there would have to be at least one installed for the refrigerator. I don't think many people can go without a refrigerator these days?
I am only talking one or two outlets for items such as the Refrigerator and possibly a Microwave oven?
With the understanding that GFCI's could be installed to meet certain needs(in lieu of a equipment ground conductor) , what about some equipment that states on the device that it must be grounded?
The Microwave being the most notorious. From reading other posts on similar subjects I also heard refrigerators mentioned.
It would be my understanding that items with such a "ground required" label could not be operated on a GFCI only. The ground is mandatory?
Assuming the above is true ,then what do people do when they rent and there are no grounded outlets? Of course (for the most part) they are not interested in paying an electrician to install grounded wiring to outlets themselves. May not even be allowed by the landlord, if they were willing to fund it themselves?
What would the landlord be responsible for if anything? I could see them refusing to install grounded circuits for anything not necessarily needed (including a Microwave or Air Conditioner).
I would think that there would have to be at least one installed for the refrigerator. I don't think many people can go without a refrigerator these days?