G.F.I. protection

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qcroanoke

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Is it required on 30 amp 240 volt exterior mounted receptacles? Code reference?
 

kwired

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In general no, one place it is required is for temporary wiring - check out 590.6, and is required whether indoors or outdoors.
 

Smart $

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... To be clear, however, the correct term is "GFCI," not "GFI."
I'm not in total disagreement, but I was wondering: what authority requires the acronym for ground fault circuit interrupter be GFCI?

FWIW, I heard GFI used among electricians way before GFCI, and continue to hear most use GFI in verbal discussions. It seems to roll off the tongue much better.

How many electrical-trade persons do not know what is meant by GFI?
 

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No. 210.8. To be clear, however, the correct term (acronym) is "GFCI," not "GFI."
:cool:

Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI). A device intended
for the protection of personnel that functions to deenergize
a circuit or portion thereof within an established
period of time when a current to ground exceeds the values
established for a Class A device.
 

infinity

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No. 210.8. To be clear, however, the correct term (acronym) is "GFCI," not "GFI."


:cool:

Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI). A device intended
for the protection of personnel that functions to deenergize
a circuit or portion thereof within an established
period of time when a current to ground exceeds the values
established for a Class A device.

I wouldn't call it an acronym. How do you say GFCI as a word?
 

kwired

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I wouldn't call it an acronym. How do you say GFCI as a word?

"jiff see":p

People are lazy and like to take short cuts with anything and everything . Even lazy enough that it is too much work to include the "C" in GFCI. Many people also call AFCI - "AFI". Maybe the Chinese with their complex language symbols is not as dumb as some think, then again maybe they have problems with people wanting to take shortcuts too:)
 

jxofaltrds

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"jiff see":p

People are lazy and like to take short cuts with anything and everything . Even lazy enough that it is too much work to include the "C" in GFCI. Many people also call AFCI - "AFI". Maybe the Chinese with their complex language symbols is not as dumb as some think, then again maybe they have problems with people wanting to take shortcuts too:)

I've heard "did you install arc faults".

Yep I drive those staples in as far as I can!
 

Smart $

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I wouldn't call it an acronym. How do you say GFCI as a word?
Doesn't have to form a word...

ac?ro?nym
Pronunciation:
'a-krə-ˌnim
Function:
noun
Etymology:
acr- + -onym
Date:
1943



: a word (as NATO, radar, or snafu) formed from the initial letter or letters of each of the successive parts or major parts of a compound term also : an abbreviation (as FBI) formed from initial letters : INITIALISM
?ac?ro?nym?ic \ˌa-krə-'ni-mik\ adjective
?ac?ro?nym?i?cal?ly \-mi-k(ə-)lē\ adverb


? 2005 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
 

Smart $

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GFCI is not pronounced as a word therefore it doesn't fit the definition of an acronym. :)
FBI isn't pronounced as a word either and it is an acronym. Being pronounced as a word is not the determining factor. Please read (or re-read) the definition I quoted earlier.
 

Little Bill

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GFCI is not pronounced as a word therefore it doesn't fit the definition of an acronym. :)

FBI isn't pronounced as a word either and it is an acronym. Being pronounced as a word is not the determining factor. Please read (or re-read) the definition I quoted earlier.
A word formed from the initial letters of the several words in the name.

From "Sage" my on board dictionary
 

Smart $

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From "Sage" my on board dictionary
My "on board" is Babylon 9 with a Webster's license plus other freebies.

Well then, here's another for you...

Acronyms and initialisms are abbreviations formed from the initial components in a phrase or a word. These components may be individual letters (as in CEO) or parts of words (as in Benelux and Ameslan). There is no universal agreement on the precise definition of the various terms (see nomenclature) nor on written usage (see orthographic styling). In English and most other languages, such abbreviations have historically had limited use, but their coinage and use became much more common in the 20th century. As a type of word formation process, acronyms and initialisms are viewed as a subtype of blending.



See more at Wikipedia.org...


And did you realize acronym is also an acronym... :p

ACRONYM
A Completely Random Order Never Yields Meaning :)
A Concise Recollection of Nomenclature Yielding Mnemonics :)
A Concise Reduction Obliquely Naming Your Meaning:)
A Contrived Reduction Of Nomenclature Yielding Mnemonics :)
A Crazy Reminder Of Names You Misplaced :)
A Cross Reference Of Notes Yielding Messages :)
A Cryptic Reminder Of Names You Meet :)
Abbreviated Code Rarely Or Never Yielding Meaning :)
Abbreviated Coded Rendition Of Name Yielding Meaning :)
Abbreviation By Cropping Names That Yield Meaning :)
Alphabetic Collocation Reducing Or Numbing Your Memory :)
Alphabetically Coded Reminder of Names You Misremember :)
Alphabetically Condensed Representation of Neologically Yclept Magniloquence :)
Alphanumeric Code for Remembering Odd Names You Make up :)
American Committee Really Out To Numb Your Mind :)

For more possible definitions for ACRONYM, click here
?1988-2002, All Rights Reserved, AcronymFinder.com
 

infinity

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FBI isn't pronounced as a word either and it is an acronym. Being pronounced as a word is not the determining factor. Please read (or re-read) the definition I quoted earlier.

I did read it and it says
. You cannot pronounce GFCI as you would scuba, laser, radar, sonar, etc.:)
 

Little Bill

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My "on board" is Babylon 9 with a Webster's license plus other freebies.

Well, my on-board "Sage" went to Princeton":p

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Smart $

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Well, my on-board "Sage" went to Princeton":p

TheSage's English Dictionary and Thesaurus.
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Since it seems you want to go there... :p

FWIW, Babylon includes WordNet 2.0 (just one of the freebies I mentioned earlier)...



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acronym

Noun
1. a word formed from the initial letters of a multi-word name
(hypernym) form, word form, signifier, descriptor
(class) DINK

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Also, to be more concise, my reference to a Webster's license was regarding Merriam-Webster Collegiate? Dictionary (the 'official' NEC dictionary, I believe):

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Babylon also accesses several other freebies, some well known, some rather obscure. Among them are Wikipedia, which I also posted earlier, and Webster's Unabridged Dictionary published 1913, but it has no entry for acronym because it was coined in 1943.
 
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