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    Quote Originally Posted by dkidd View Post
    Sometimes they just want to know what time it is, not how to build a clock. Or who invented them.
    ...but sometimes knowing what time zone they're in or asking about is essential.
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    That's all fine and well, but more importantly, did you install a timer to exercise your sump pump yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjf View Post
    That's all fine and well, but more importantly, did you install a timer to exercise your sump pump yet?
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkidd View Post
    Sometimes they just want to know what time it is, not how to build a clock. Or who invented them.
    With all due respect, I don't see that as the gist of this forum. (the following is just using this as a jumping point, not a direct argument against you.)

    The forum is specifically for those in the trade, not laymen and sometimes the best information here is found in the diversion. As such, if the answer is simple, then the OP should be challenged to come up with their own answer, not simply answered. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to speak for the forum, but this is the way I interpreted the forum information years ago when it was presented to me by the great Dennis Alwon, a lowly moderator at the time. (Oops, not that is an off topic diversion)

    This also isn't a disagreement with iWire's original post as I interpret it, which is more about straying off topic, not delving more deeply in to it.

    OP: "How often do you have to strap conduit?"

    Proposed answer, "What research did you do before you posted this question here?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strathead View Post
    With all due respect, I don't see that as the gist of this forum. (the following is just using this as a jumping point, not a direct argument against you.)

    The forum is specifically for those in the trade, not laymen and sometimes the best information here is found in the diversion. As such, if the answer is simple, then the OP should be challenged to come up with their own answer, not simply answered. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to speak for the forum, but this is the way I interpreted the forum information years ago when it was presented to me by the great Dennis Alwon, a lowly moderator at the time. (Oops, not that is an off topic diversion)

    This also isn't a disagreement with iWire's original post as I interpret it, which is more about straying off topic, not delving more deeply in to it.

    OP: "How often do you have to strap conduit?"

    Proposed answer, "What research did you do before you posted this question here?"
    I can agree. Sometimes its tempting to respond with GIYF. (Or actually hard to resist)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkidd View Post
    I can agree. Sometimes its tempting to respond with GIYF.

    GIYF


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strathead View Post
    GIYF
    That calls for a recursive post.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=giyf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strathead View Post
    As such, if the answer is simple, then the OP should be challenged to come up with their own answer, not simply answered.
    If it seems like homework questions I agree.

    If it seems like a trade guy with a real issue I would hope we would just help, sometimes that help may be just where to look in the code book, or what supplier may have a part they need etc.

    Your comments here are appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    I see iwire'so point and agree with him. Too many times an unimportant details get more attention than the meat of the question being asked.
    "Hi, my name is gadfly56 and I'm a serial thread drifter."
    Last edited by gadfly56; 01-27-17 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strathead View Post
    The forum is specifically for those in the trade, not laymen and sometimes the best information here is found in the diversion. As such, if the answer is simple, then the OP should be challenged to come up with their own answer, not simply answered. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am not trying to speak for the forum, but this is the way I interpreted the forum information years ago when it was presented to me by the great Dennis Alwon, a lowly moderator at the time. (Oops, not that is an off topic diversion)
    Strathead, I like your summary, and want to expand just a bit.

    I see Bob and the other Moderator's concern for paying attention to the original post's content. And yet, many original posts are worded such that a forum reader can not easily arrive at the same understanding of the original post as the next forum reader.

    This "understanding", to me, is the heart and the art of this Forum. To me, the "intent" of the Forum is to derive meaningful understanding that can be shared, an understanding derived almost entirely from the printed word.

    In practice, learning (the process of deriving meaning) generally includes risking asking questions. A first-day apprentice all the way to the credentialed electrical engineer professional engineer to the most seasoned inspector or Authority Having Jurisdiction, will, in my opinion, struggle with words in the course of asking a question about something that is not clear to the asker.

    My recollections of my first posts way back last century was that my language was corrected. I simply was entering into the Forum community with a less-than-complete command of the defined terms from the NEC, and my personal use of words would give rise to all sorts of confusion, if responded to, and many times just was returned with additional questions. The freshest apprentice to the most seasoned Authority, when asking questions, can easily struggle with the terms used in the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by iwire View Post
    I figured I would post this and let you know what some of the moderators are up to. There are a number of us that feel we have been letting threads drift too much and that is not great for the original poster (OP)

    What I am asking is that we try to stay directly on the OPs question and not expand on it until we hear back from the OP and they ask further questions.
    I like the idea of staying directly with the OP's question, because it will tend to better extract the nature of the learning that is being grappled with by the original poster.

    ASIDE: I apologize for my thread jacks over the years, as I have been involved is some long ones.
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