Originally Posted by thomasbl7
I am probably that journeyman. Your first sentence immediately gets under my skin. What does, "Needless to say." mean? To mean it indicates the typical millennial who hasn't learned that you don't get a trophy for participation. In my experience apprentices are treated with the respect they deserve in most cases but needless to say implies the opposite. Who expects to be treated with dignity and respect merely because they exist, not based on their actions. I remember an apprentice once who complained to the boss because I was given a new assignment in another building same job site. I told the apprentice to start hauling 300 feet of 3/4" conduit to the work area, and went over to the gang box at my previous area to get my tools. Then back to grab couplings connectors etc. He felt he was being treated like a slave. I guess I was supposed to say "pretty please with sugar on top." I have had more than one apprentice/helper over the years, come back to me later and tell me I was the "expletive" they learned the most from and they had a completely different attitude once they were in charge of their own apprentices. I'll take that.
Remember instead that you earn respect, you deserve to be treated with dignity. But you are hired to work. When I was a foreman (now an office puke) I wielded a broom or a shovel much more than a screwdriver because my main responsibility was to be available for my men (women to for political correctness). So, if an apprentice is stuck digging for a week then they don't have my sympathy.
Now that is a rant.
I know what I don't know, and I know where to go to find it!