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    Eyewash station ?

    Have a light switch about 2 ft away from a eye wash station with a wash down hose . Its 277 volt lighting . Also on the floor to the left of the eye wash station is a water cooler plugged into a outlet . The outlet is behind the water cooler. Safety has questioned this and says its a wet location 1910.305 (e) (2) . From a previous post I saw here I say it isn't . I will double check the water cooler and verify that the outlet behind it is a GFI protected . What I have a question about the 277 volt light switch . Is the light switch a violation ?

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    As per anouther post no

    This just came up not to long ago, and the outcome was "it is an emergency I wash" and is not a wet location.
    A cowboy may get thrown , but they always get up and walk forward.

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    DaveBones,

    Your OP regarding the light switch 2 ft. away from an Eye Wash \
    Rinse Station is a subjective question.

    In reading the Letter of the definition of a Wet Location [ from
    the NEC ], one may or may not conclude that the switch is not in
    Wet Location.

    The Owner of the building may want to cover his arse with the
    price of a "waterproof switch cover".......His insurance provider
    "might" also agree.........It comes down to defining the risk versus
    the cost to reduce the injury potential.........This is a Risk
    Assessment scenario.

    QUESTION 4 U ( and others ):
    Would you, as the bldg. owner, want to reduce your [ potential ]
    monetary losses by damage to the bldg. and injury to humans, by
    installing a waterproof switch cover, or simply not do anything
    because of a Definition in the NEC ?



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    And do you consider the ongoing extra difficulty in actuating the switch to be justified by the hypothetical risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by north star View Post

    [/COLOR]QUESTION 4 U ( and others ):
    Would you, as the bldg. owner, want to reduce your [ potential ]
    monetary losses by damage to the bldg. and injury to humans, by
    installing a waterproof switch cover, or simply not do anything
    because of a Definition in the NEC ?



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    There is no danger in having a light switch next to an eyewash station so there is no reason to install a weatherproof cover.
    Once in a while you get shown the light
    In the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    There is no danger in having a light switch next to an eyewash station so there is no reason to install a weatherproof cover.
    If you try to actuate the light switch while your face is buried in the eyewash, all I can say is "Darwin Award Nominee!"

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    "There is no danger in having a light switch next to an eyewash station
    so there is no reason to install a weatherproof cover."
    That is your opinion.......The bldg. owner' insurance provider
    may not see it that way.......In fact, the bldg. owner may
    actually get a cost reduction for being proactive in enacting
    safety measures [ or perceived ] safety measures.


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    $ = $

    "And do you consider the ongoing extra difficulty in actuating the switch
    to be justified by the hypothetical risk? "
    What difficulty ?


    Single Gang Toggle Switch Cover





    $ = $


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    Quote Originally Posted by north star View Post
    @ ~ @
    enacting safety measures [ or perceived ] safety measures.


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    Key word being perceived. There my be an obscene level of self righteousness displayed by forcing someone to install the cover but there is no added safety,
    Once in a while you get shown the light
    In the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    There is no danger in having a light switch next to an eyewash station so there is no reason to install a weatherproof cover.
    Assuming I buy this for a moment, why not put light switches (even with weatherproof covers) inside of shower stalls indoors? I hope this switch is not needed to illuminate the area of the station.


    OP, is this eyewash station indoor or out? I deduct from the water cooler it's indoor. Is it a shower type where the switch would get wet, or a gravity tank type with removeable cups that once removed you stick your face in?

    I've made my position on eyewash stations clear many times in the past. If you are using one, you are probably freaking out, covered in chemicals, and 99% of the time common sense will go right out the window. Muriatic acid, lye, etc in your eyes tends to do that. Make it as safe and idiot-proof as possible. There is a great deal of room to improve in industrial safety, for relatively little cost. Are you the engineer that says "it's been this way for x years, they'll be ok" or one who goes "you know, under certain conditions, that have happened before elsewhere, it might be a good idea to..."?

    In this particular example, I agree with northstar 100%
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