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    Perhaps these close up shots with the video may give you a better visual inspection.

    I'm very appreciative folks, how have I not known about this forum sooner? I just kill myself looking for answers at times for items I just can't find or understand by way of some complicated NEC jargon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mwm1752 View Post
    Who are "they"? & which code cycle are they expecting the panel to be compliant with? If "they" are a home inspection service that would explain alot
    Yes, its a home inspection service. It's an abandoned house and I have no access to the report. They stated the issues with the panel needed to be addressed and I'm not seeing it. I'm beginning to doubt my own abilities.

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    seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
    CircuitRyder --- Unfortunately not all good ideas are code enforceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybatrex View Post
    Yes, its a home inspection service. It's an abandoned house and I have no access to the report. They stated the issues with the panel needed to be addressed and I'm not seeing it. I'm beginning to doubt my own abilities.
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    They most likely are expecting the most recent code to apply the report should be accessible for proper repairs -- If so AFCI/GFCI is just the start of things they want improved even though there would be no code violations as is -- have they asked you to replace devices?
    CircuitRyder --- Unfortunately not all good ideas are code enforceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwm1752 View Post
    seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
    The only thing I found related to the system is this ripped off disconnect in the back yard which obviosly needs to be redone and this was obvious though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwm1752 View Post
    seeing the CU & undersized neutral it appears the feed into the panel is a piping system -- that said/assumed is there a disconnect ahead of this panel on the structure & would this be considered a feeder? All indications otherwise points to this being the service lateral which appears compliant.
    Different AHJ's have different allowances on how far service conductors are allowed to enter a building before they must hit the service disconnecting means. If that were a building on a slab and less then 5 feet before hitting the panel - it would be ok here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cybatrex View Post
    The only thing I found related to the system is this ripped off disconnect in the back yard which obviosly needs to be redone and this was obvious though.

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    Looks maybe like for an air conditioner/heat pump that is no longer there, may have been taken out because the unit was removed and this would prevent energizing the exposed conductors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrofelon View Post
    Only thing I see is the white conductors used as ungrounded conductors are not identified. I see the green screw so ok to have N and G together (some people like to keep them separate anyway, for appearance).
    Are those two breaker positions being used for whole house surge suppression?

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    Am I the only one who is seeing a bare #6/#4 ground wire on the bottom lug that doesnt go to squat? It just appears to die at the bottom of the panel.
    Electricians do it until it Hertz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFletcher View Post
    Am I the only one who is seeing a bare #6/#4 ground wire on the bottom lug that doesnt go to squat? It just appears to die at the bottom of the panel.
    Yes, you are.

    There is usually a small hole in that area for the GEC. At least there is on the panels I use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptonsparky View Post
    Yes, you are.

    There is usually a small hole in that area for the GEC. At least there is on the panels I use.
    I saw it once I blew up the photo. I need glasses, or maybe a better monitor.

    eta: I retract my "self grounding panel" remark as well. ty for the correction.
    Electricians do it until it Hertz!

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