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    old metal 4" square boxes covers

    I am working on a residential renovation, and found a lot of open boxes, that of course just need a blank 4" square cover. Any one knows if it is still available for this discontinued boxes?. I don't want to start cutting and drilling the new covers available for the new boxes now. Thanks for your responses
    Miguel

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    Well since you didn't show the box, that's going to be hard to answer.
    I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check.

    There's no substitute for hard work....but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up trying to find one.

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    Sorry about that. Sometimes you think that people see what you have in you mind.
    If you see , the meta tab where the threaded hole for the 6-32 screw use to be farther from the corner, The modern 1900's have them very close to the corner. So the distance from screw to screw is different from this old boxes. We can not put the modern blank cover because the slots do not align, so we have to cut or drill them. Very time consuming.
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    Miguel

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    I found a bunch of those style blanks years ago at a local privately owned Hardware store on clearance as they were becoming a chain hardware store, check around there. I have also seen them online, I'll have to look at my bookmarks when I am home.

    Depending on how many you need, I'd just drill them out.

    I also have a few in my shop from jobs we've demoed over the years for just this reason.

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    Hello,
    I am sure Garvin sells an accessory to screw them to the box, it's a little tab, checkout their website.
    Here's the URL for the tabs.

    http://www.garvinindustries.com/elec...b-converter/ec


    Quote Originally Posted by mtnelectrical View Post
    Sorry about that. Sometimes you think that people see what you have in you mind.
    If you see , the meta tab where the threaded hole for the 6-32 screw use to be farther from the corner, The modern 1900's have them very close to the corner. So the distance from screw to screw is different from this old boxes. We can not put the modern blank cover because the slots do not align, so we have to cut or drill them. Very time consuming.
    Last edited by pjholguin; 05-02-17 at 02:21 PM.
    PJHolguin 8-)

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    So you want to add holes to a UL listed cover?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petersonra View Post
    So you want to add holes to a UL listed cover?
    That's what he's trying to avoid.
    I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check.

    There's no substitute for hard work....but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up trying to find one.

    John Childress
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnelectrical View Post
    Sorry about that. Sometimes you think that people see what you have in you mind.
    If you see , the meta tab where the threaded hole for the 6-32 screw use to be farther from the corner, The modern 1900's have them very close to the corner. So the distance from screw to screw is different from this old boxes. We can not put the modern blank cover because the slots do not align, so we have to cut or drill them. Very time consuming.
    Just a question are you sure that's not a 5s box?
    I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check.

    There's no substitute for hard work....but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up trying to find one.

    John Childress
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyjwc View Post
    Just a question are you sure that's not a 5s box?
    Hmmm, could be, could be.

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    or this, for a drawn box

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    The OP's picture shows a old style 4s box where the ears are in a different place than modern 4s. Those Garvin adapters should work fine.

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