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Thread: Dead wires in walls

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    Quote Originally Posted by user 100 View Post
    Requiring the old insulators/tubes out is just nutty.

    Wonder exactly how one would accidentally light up that old ceramic?
    The closest thing to an answer on why came from one inspector who said it was an attic navigation hazard and one could get injured from bumping their head on one. Ridiculous statement, but ................. I suppose one could. I also suppose one could hurt themselves much worse when they misstep and fall thru the old plaster or canick and hit the ground 8 feet or more below but I digress.........

    The year is 2017. I could understand this type of nonsense running around an inspection department in the year 1965 or so, there was not any internet , or any MikeHolt.com, but in this age, requiring an electrical contractor to remove the porcelain insulators is nothing but shameful ignorance. But yet, it happens, and it happened to me before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 480sparky View Post
    I can't find any NEC requirement to the contrary!
    Neither can I, so I will continue to do it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevenfyeager View Post
    I've had inspectors say in remodeling, a non used old wire can be capped and labeled 'dead' and shoved back in a wall without a j box. Is this true? Thank you.
    if the conductor is disconnected on both ends, it is not part of an electrical
    distribution system.

    at. all.

    does the NEC have an opinion on electrical material not connected to any
    system? if they do, i'd better get that roll of romex out of my garage.

    not only is neither end properly terminated, there is not a single strap,
    support, or staple over it's entire length... and it's over 200' long!

    and, it's a safety hazard. i tripped over it the other day. said a bad word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    ....i tripped over it the other day. said a bad word.
    You? I don't believe it.
    Once in a while you get shown the light
    In the strangest of places if you look at it right. Robert Hunter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    You? I don't believe it.
    What makes this funny is that Moderator tag next to your name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaylectricity View Post
    What makes this funny is that Moderator tag next to your name.
    what makes it even funnier is the backstory on this.

    me? a bad word? pshaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    what makes it even funnier is the backstory on this.

    me? a bad word? pshaw.
    I obviously missed the excitement, but I completely understand what probably happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaylectricity View Post
    I obviously missed the excitement, but I completely understand what probably happened.
    some of my communication skills were taught me by ironworkers,
    and oilfield roughnecks, who have the vocabulary to handle most
    any situation.

    you betcha.
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