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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleman View Post
    Has anyone ever heard of a waiver or form that can be signed by an employee to permit live work for the purpose of troubleshooting, and that is
    compliant per existing OSHA NFPA NEC codes? We typically will go into live panels to troubleshoot with proper PPE. But the question of compliance
    has come up. Hence the proposal for a waiver or form of some sort. I am vague on all the technicalities of OSHA and thought I'd ask here where a
    lot of you people know this stuff very well.
    in the people's republic of california, you are not legally allowed to waive your own personal safety.

    those wavers you have to sign before motorcycle races.... doesn't matter in calif. you can sign one,
    get hurt, and still sue anyone you'd like to, sucessfully.

    if you could have such a waiver, i'd have it printed on the back of my work shirts, just so i could
    get something done without a little yappy person annoying me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
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    if you could have such a waiver, i'd have it printed on the back of my work shirts, just so i could
    get something done without a little yappy person annoying me.
    "I hereby exempt myself from all hazardous conditions."

    I will have achieved my life's goal if I die with a smile on my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smart $ View Post
    "I hereby exempt myself from all hazardous conditions."

    I want that that shirt.

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    That shirt is probably out there somewhere already.

    We also need liability disclaimer shirts to go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    That shirt is probably out there somewhere already.

    We also need liability disclaimer shirts to go with it.
    you can't wear two shirts. so, you have to hire someone to stand
    next to you wearing the disclaimer shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    you can't wear two shirts. so, you have to hire someone to stand
    next to you wearing the disclaimer shirt.
    the owner of the company wears the liability disclaimer and his employees wear the hazardous conditions disclaimer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumper View Post
    Thanks. That is what the management wants. I want a blanket permit that lasts a longer period for routine tasks, like troubleshooting.
    A one time permit would be good for oddball tasks. Not my call, but having to fill out a form just to check a fuse would be cumbersome.

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    Based on the OP's original post, my question is has anyone there had electrical safety training? By definition a qualified worker has had electrical safety training and should have been able to answer the original question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleman View Post
    Thanks. That is what the management wants. I want a blanket permit that lasts a longer period for routine tasks, like troubleshooting.
    A one time permit would be good for oddball tasks. Not my call, but having to fill out a form just to check a fuse would be cumbersome.
    some places I've been have such a permit. It's usually issued for a year and specifies what live work is permitted under the terms of the permit. On the other hand a lot of places don't bother. I've also seen a few places where they don't actually have a permit but a policy of some sort regarding what live work is allowed and under what circumstances but don't actually have to have a specific permit if work is allowed under the policy.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtinge View Post
    Based on the OP's original post, my question is has anyone there had electrical safety training? By definition a qualified worker has had electrical safety training and should have been able to answer the original question.


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