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    210.52(C)(3)

    Which rendition is correct?

    NEC 2017 210.52 (C) Countertops and Work Surfaces.(3) Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop long dimension space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connected perpendicular wall.
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    We had a thread on this last year. I never actually figured out exactly what they want in the 2017.

    Since I do not wire resi kitchens, I gave up trying to understand. Maybe this thread will give a simpler answer.

    http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=180259
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    Based on the thread Jumper provided, I vote the drawing on the left is approved by the 2017 NEC.
    JMHO
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    In Washington we stayed with the 2014 language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarroll View Post
    Based on the thread Jumper provided, I vote the drawing on the left is approved by the 2017 NEC.
    JMHO

    I would agree the wording is describing the left drawing but it is interesting that the NEC commentary uses the right side drawing for an example. Puts inspectors in a controversial setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom baker View Post
    In Washington we stayed with the 2014 language.

    would that be the rightside or leftside drawing? very political answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumper View Post
    We had a thread on this last year. I never actually figured out exactly what they want in the 2017.

    Since I do not wire resi kitchens, I gave up trying to understand. Maybe this thread will give a simpler answer.

    http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=180259

    Not really -- LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwm1752 View Post
    I would agree the wording is describing the left drawing but it is interesting that the NEC commentary uses the right side drawing for an example. Puts inspectors in a controversial setting.
    The 2017 NECHB commentary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumper View Post
    The 2017 NECHB commentary?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwm1752 View Post
    Which rendition is correct?

    NEC 2017 210.52 (C) Countertops and Work Surfaces.(3) Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop long dimension space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connected perpendicular wall.
    Your layout A is correct. (0ne on the left) However, nothing would prohibit your enhanced layout B as well...more is better in this case and look for a change to clarify things a bit in the 2020 cycle.
    *All code responses are based on the 2017 National Electrical Code[NEC]

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