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    Quote Originally Posted by 480sparky View Post
    Because they're not Federal Pacific?
    I trust an FPE more than an AFCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter d View Post
    I trust an FPE more than an AFCI.
    Both were laboratory rigged to give the results UL wanted to see...
    What is esoteric knowledge today will be common knowledge tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbrooke View Post
    Both were laboratory rigged to give the results UL wanted to see...
    Quote Originally Posted by hbiss View Post
    All that extra weight can come in handy in snow country. Could also throw some under your tires if you get stuck. About all they are good for.

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    Are those 10 pack cases of AFCI? What the heck are you wiring, an entire neighborhood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter d View Post
    I trust an FPE more than an AFCI.
    You trust FPE to fail to function more often than an AFCI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrofelon View Post
    What a waste and a shame. I'd like to see the figures for dollars per life saved for afci's vs feeding starving children in Africa, or any number of other things.
    And in what way would those figures change your installation practices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap View Post
    And in what way would those figures change your installation practices?

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    It's not going to change anybody's practices, it's going to illustrate the resources being wasted on AFCIs in the name of safety that could be better used somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    It's not going to change anybody's practices, it's going to illustrate the resources being wasted on AFCIs in the name of safety that could be better used somewhere else.
    And what will that illustration accomplish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap View Post
    And what will that illustration accomplish?

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    It is arguable that forcing consumers to have AFCI's installed by manufacturers using standards writing organizations as a vehicle to mandate their use without proof of efficacy is a form of theft by deception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    It is arguable that forcing consumers to have AFCI's installed by manufacturers using standards writing organizations as a vehicle to mandate their use without proof of efficacy is a form of theft by deception.
    So why don't the ones that feel that way take a stand and refuse to install them?

    JAP>

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap View Post
    So why don't the ones that feel that way take a stand and refuse to install them?

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