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Thread: Giving a quote without a concrete scope of work?

  1. #11
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    I'm more or less in agreement with many of the above posts. As a minimum I would suggest:
    Survey the job.

    Detail, in writing, your exact scope of works.
    Submit, in writing, a price for that scope of supply with the caveat that anything beyond that will incur extra charges and have to be agreed in writing by both parties.
    Submit terms of payment with any penalties/action in the event those terms not being met.

    Get the customer's signature your proposal. And maybe initial the clauses relating to payment.
    Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sw_ross View Post
    That's the general feeling I'm getting as I think about the project...
    I have concerns about "the budget", and their ability to pay.
    stuff like this, there is no budget, and money to pay for anything
    is iffy. your gut already knows that, and your head is trying to
    talk you into it being ok to give it a go....

    seriously, when was the last time anyone on this forum had a
    customer who was willing to live with emt on their living room
    walls to save some money? something is off here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    stuff like this, there is no budget, and money to pay for anything
    is iffy. your gut already knows that, and your head is trying to
    talk you into it being ok to give it a go....

    seriously, when was the last time anyone on this forum had a
    customer who was willing to live with emt on their living room
    walls to save some money? something is off here.
    When the OP described the location and said they didn't want to open up the walls I imagined he was dealing with plaster over lathe over studs that are so old they are hard as concrete. Surface mount probably is significantly less expensive in that case. Wiremold will look twice as good and cost twice as much to install. EMT might be all they can afford and they just have to live with it. If you keep it low and paint it to match the walls you'd hardly even notice it. I'd show them some pictures so they have a preview of what they are getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppersmith View Post
    Wiremold will look twice as good and cost twice as much to install.
    I would think 4x material cost of EMT, labor around 2x
    Dave Ruth
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    A friend bought a condo in an upscale renovated factory space.

    The 'decor' included using exposed strut as wireway. It was painted a contrasting color to the walls, and really could not be ignored. I actually liked the look.

    -Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coppersmith View Post
    When the OP described the location and said they didn't want to open up the walls I imagined he was dealing with plaster over lathe over studs that are so old they are hard as concrete.
    yeah, good point. there are limits even to the all powerful
    Fein tool. also the consideration with plaster that old was
    that often times they put asbestos into the plaster, as it
    acted as a reinforcement, and kept the plaster from cracking.
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    I have many times ran EMT in old houses - in particular in second floor areas where fishing wiring into "knee walls" is about impossible. Run the raceway just above base trim and it doesn't stand out too much - especially after they furnish the room. May need to run up along side door casing to light switches sometimes, try to go vertical inside closets when possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenje View Post
    Get a stamped set of prints and specs for the project before you start throwing out numbers. If they are serious about doing this project, this is the first step they need to do.
    I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check.

    There's no substitute for hard work....but that doesn't mean I'm going to give up trying to find one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post

    seriously, when was the last time anyone on this forum had a
    customer who was willing to live with emt on their living room
    walls to save some money? something is off here.
    For a normal house I wouldn't even think of running EMT. I don't even like wire mold.

    But there are people living in the city that don't mind the industrial loft look.


    But I do agree that I would be very‚Äč concerned about the money.
    The 95% of people that you can't trust give the other 5% a bad name.

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