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    Solid wire and crimping

    Can solid wire (say #6 solid) be butt spliced using a crimped connection? I have never seen a solid wire crimped.

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    Edward
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    Quote Originally Posted by edward View Post
    Can solid wire (say #6 solid) be butt spliced using a crimped connection? I have never seen a solid wire crimped.

    Thank you.
    Some but by no means all butt splice connectors are rated for solid wire. I would expect to have to use a cycle controlled crimper to match the connectors. No universal crimp pliers if using solid wire.
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    Just curious, who uses #6 solid and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity View Post
    Just curious, who uses #6 solid and why?
    Grounding of panels and other required equipment.

    Can't think where I've ever seen it spliced though.

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    It is for GEC extension.

    The plumbers did a plumbing upgrade and the city has required a new grounding system. The plumbers did not do the GEC properly so the customer wants me to use a butt splice to extend the GEC to the panel and I refused to use a crimp and butt splice on the solid wire.

    I said I will replace the whole system properly without a butt splice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edward View Post
    It is for GEC extension.

    The plumbers did a plumbing upgrade and the city has required a new grounding system. The plumbers did not do the GEC properly so the customer wants me to use a butt splice to extend the GEC to the panel and I refused to use a crimp and butt splice on the solid wire.

    I said I will replace the whole system properly without a butt splice.
    Cadweld or similar should be adequate but may be more expensive than the new 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edward View Post
    It is for GEC extension.

    The plumbers did a plumbing upgrade and the city has required a new grounding system. The plumbers did not do the GEC properly so the customer wants me to use a butt splice to extend the GEC to the panel and I refused to use a crimp and butt splice on the solid wire.

    I said I will replace the whole system properly without a butt splice.
    Irreversible crimp is all you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    Irreversible crimp is all you need.
    Burndy YC4C6 less than $6 if you have the tool or can borrow one.
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    Don't call me stupid, but I've wondered about using a swaging tool and aluminum crimp sleeves. The kind you would use for wire rope or Airline cable.

    Never done it, but I thought about it in the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by James L View Post
    Don't call me stupid, but I've wondered about using a swaging tool and aluminum crimp sleeves. The kind you would use for wire rope or Airline cable.

    Never done it, but I thought about it in the past
    Funny you mention that. Last spring, I had to extend a Ufer connection to feed a new panel location. #4 wire fits a 3/16" oval copper Nicopress sleeve. Perfectly. Not a listed splice, but DEFINITELY irreversible and low resistance.

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    I did this at my parents' house; I sleep just fine knowing how I did this splice.


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