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    Quote Originally Posted by Listenupjunior View Post
    I'm 22 years old and thinking about going to trade school. The issue is that I have a misdemeanor charge that I didn't get convicted for and I got it expunged. Is it possible for me to still be an electrician?
    An arrest, on any charge, is fairly meaningless without a conviction. Employers are no longer allowed to ask if you've ever been arrested, only if you've been convicted. A fine point everyone here has missed.

    If the record has indeed been expunged, whether an arrest or conviction, you do not have to disclose it on employment or other applications. The function of expungement is to make it as if the incident never happened. If it never happened, you don't talk about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    An arrest, on any charge, is fairly meaningless without a conviction. Employers are no longer allowed to ask if you've ever been arrested, only if you've been convicted. A fine point everyone here has missed.
    Many employers run a background check irregardless of whatever is put on an application- you get snared one way or the other. In the ops case, hopefully, publicly viewable records pertaining to his situation should have been destroyed due to the expungement/or will clearly reflect expungement.

    That said, he still shouldn't ever mention it to a prospective employer- he was never convicted/slate was wiped clean, so it never happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    An arrest, on any charge, is fairly meaningless without a conviction. Employers are no longer allowed to ask if you've ever been arrested, only if you've been convicted. A fine point everyone here has missed....
    Still enough to get you sent to the group W bench though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    An arrest, on any charge, is fairly meaningless without a conviction. Employers are no longer allowed to ask if you've ever been arrested, only if you've been convicted. A fine point everyone here has missed.
    Maybe so, but asking the applicant is not the only way a prospective employer can find out about stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionDave View Post
    Still enough to get you sent to the group W bench though.
    Thank you, Alice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggunn View Post
    Maybe so, but asking the applicant is not the only way a prospective employer can find out about stuff like this.
    They may, but if they turned him down for employment or the state board tossed his application on the grounds he lied, it would be about as close to a slam-dunk civil case as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Listenupjunior View Post
    I'm 22 years old and thinking about going to trade school. The issue is that I have a misdemeanor charge that I didn't get convicted for and I got it expunged. Is it possible for me to still be an electrician?
    most states allow you to run a criminal background check on yourself for a small fee
    do it and see what shows up
    it is the same as any non gov entity would see
    pretty sure some agencies see everything: some state licensing, law enforcement, school employee clearances, etc

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    6. Have you been convicted (found guilty, pled guilty or pled nolo contendere), received probationwithout verdict or accelerated rehabilitative disposition (ARD), as to any criminal charges, felonyor misdemeanor, including any drug law violations? Note: You are not required to disclose anyARD or other criminal matter that has been expunged by order of a court.

    but you do have to disclose any unresolved matters/arrests
    7. Do you currently have any criminal charges pending and unresolved in any state or jurisdiction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    They may, but if they turned him down for employment or the state board tossed his application on the grounds he lied, it would be about as close to a slam-dunk civil case as you can get.
    Even so, something like that may be hard to prove when there are a number of candidates for a job and the employer picks someone else. The candidate(s) who didn't get picked will likely never know why the guy who got the job got the nod over them.

    This is why it is important in these days and times for people to be careful what they get photographed/recorded doing, saying, and posting. There is no telling what a Google search might turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggunn View Post
    Even so, something like that may be hard to prove when there are a number of candidates for a job and the employer picks someone else. The candidate(s) who didn't get picked will likely never know why the guy who got the job got the nod over them.

    This is why it is important in these days and times for people to be careful what they get photographed/recorded doing, saying, and posting. There is no telling what a Google search might turn up.
    That assistant coach with the Miami Dolphins comes to mind. What an idiot!

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