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    Labor- 3/4" EMT

    Really need some feedback. ¾” in EMT with compressionfittings(no wire) run with just KX clips attached to pencil rod( we are allowedto do that). Ceiling/space is wide open, ceilings aren’t up yet so pretty easyinstall. 8’ ceilings and pretty straight runs.

    I think .08 or 8 hours per hundred is attainable for mostguys. I was told average is about 11 hours per hundred which seems high to me.Any input would be helpful. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrlucky74 View Post
    Really need some feedback. ¾” in EMT with compressionfittings(no wire) run with just KX clips attached to pencil rod( we are allowedto do that). Ceiling/space is wide open, ceilings aren’t up yet so pretty easyinstall. 8’ ceilings and pretty straight runs.

    I think .08 or 8 hours per hundred is attainable for mostguys. I was told average is about 11 hours per hundred which seems high to me.Any input would be helpful. Thanks.

    This is a loaded question. Who told you 11? Why do you, who I can tell from history of questions, have not been in the field for any length of time, think 8 is attainable?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrlucky74 View Post
    Really need some feedback. ¾” in EMT with compressionfittings(no wire) run with just KX clips attached to pencil rod( we are allowedto do that). Ceiling/space is wide open, ceilings aren’t up yet so pretty easyinstall. 8’ ceilings and pretty straight runs.

    I think .08 or 8 hours per hundred is attainable for mostguys. I was told average is about 11 hours per hundred which seems high to me.Any input would be helpful. Thanks.
    Every time I see an estimate I wonder if the creator takes into account that people have to take a piss every once in a while. Depending on the work site, that may not be a trivial interruption in the work flow. Likewise, you have set up at the beginning of the day and cleanup at the end. Oh, and don't forget the 5 minute safety talk (mandatory, every day) and the trade meeting to find out who's doing what to whom. There's a hundred and one time vampires out there that few seem to notice, until you see the four-day job is running into the following week. Then people pay attention, but it's too late. The super or foreman tells you just "work harder" or "work faster" or "get it done". Great solution. Really helpful.

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    I thought you used software. What does it tell you per 100' ?

    You just gave us the same scenario that your software asks.

    Have you adjusted your units based on past job performance?

    You spent a lot of money for that software and units, but don't seem to trust it.

    Why do you ask these questions when the answer is right under your nose?

    btw...I came up with just over 10hr/c

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    Every time I see an estimate I wonder if the creator takes into account that people have to take a piss every once in a while. Depending on the work site, that may not be a trivial interruption in the work flow. Likewise, you have set up at the beginning of the day and cleanup at the end. Oh, and don't forget the 5 minute safety talk (mandatory, every day) and the trade meeting to find out who's doing what to whom. There's a hundred and one time vampires out there that few seem to notice, until you see the four-day job is running into the following week. Then people pay attention, but it's too late. The super or foreman tells you just "work harder" or "work faster" or "get it done". Great solution. Really helpful.

    Labor units account for breaks and cleanup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strathead View Post
    This is a loaded question. Who told you 11? Why do you, who I can tell from history of questions, have not been in the field for any length of time, think 8 is attainable?
    Because based on other feedback over the years....I've been told that 8 is good. many can even beat that. Standard install and jobsite conditions etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadfly56 View Post
    Every time I see an estimate I wonder if the creator takes into account that people have to take a piss every once in a while. Depending on the work site, that may not be a trivial interruption in the work flow. Likewise, you have set up at the beginning of the day and cleanup at the end. Oh, and don't forget the 5 minute safety talk (mandatory, every day) and the trade meeting to find out who's doing what to whom. There's a hundred and one time vampires out there that few seem to notice, until you see the four-day job is running into the following week. Then people pay attention, but it's too late. The super or foreman tells you just "work harder" or "work faster" or "get it done". Great solution. Really helpful.

    My labor units include for drawing survey layout, NPL and installation...just like NECA units. About 50-60% unit is install only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdslotz View Post
    I thought you used software. What does it tell you per 100' ?

    You just gave us the same scenario that your software asks.

    Have you adjusted your units based on past job performance?

    You spent a lot of money for that software and units, but don't seem to trust it.

    Why do you ask these questions when the answer is right under your nose?

    btw...I came up with just over 10hr/c
    Software gives different labor columns. My initial post is the labor units we most commonly use.

    I ask to get feedback from others to try and get a larger sampling.

    10/c seems a little high for competitive bidding....change orders maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrlucky74 View Post
    Software gives different labor columns. My initial post is the labor units we most commonly use.

    I ask to get feedback from others to try and get a larger sampling.

    10/c seems a little high for competitive bidding....change orders maybe.

    You have yet to tell us what your software gave you based on the scenario you described

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdslotz View Post
    Labor units account for breaks and cleanup
    If you are using software, I would hope so. I'm more used to dealing with people who fly by the seat of their pants.

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