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    200a service upgrade

    I am a commercial electrician for 15 years now so don’t do too much residential work but am upgrading a 100a service to a 200a service for a friend and he wants me to give him a ballpark price. My question is do you guys have 200a upgrade standard pricing being that the arc fault reqs now raise the price of individual breakers. Friendship pricing aside I would like to come up with a standard pricing for jobs like this. Thanks

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    No such thing as a standard price.

    Every area is different.
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    I'm pretty sure that guys that do services alot have a set price to go off of if someone asks them how much they charge for a service. I have standard prices for a lot of things on the commercial side so there is such a thing as a standard.

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    Around here $2500-$3000 arc fault not required.
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    That's more like the answer i was hoping to get. Something helpful. I Assume its the AHJ's call on wether or not he wants arc faults installed or is it common practice to not have to install them on a panel/service upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickbruce128 View Post
    That's more like the answer i was hoping to get. Something helpful. I Assume its the AHJ's call on wether or not he wants arc faults installed or is it common practice to not have to install them on a panel/service upgrade.
    Depends on which NEC version applies, 2014 says you don't need to add AFCI's if you haven't extended any of the circuits that otherwise require AFCI by more then six feet. See exception following 210.12(B).

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    Check applicable NEC version and local exceptions. AFCI may not be required, as others have noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickbruce128 View Post
    I'm pretty sure that guys that do services alot have a set price to go off of if someone asks them how much they charge for a service. I have standard prices for a lot of things on the commercial side so there is such a thing as a standard.
    My point is there is no real standard price for all areas.

    Infinity, who lives in New Jersey, has high labor costs, taxes, and what not. His price may reflect that. 2500.00 to 3000.00

    A rural area with a low COL may be 1200.00 to 1800.00.

    Say each makes a profit of 750.00.

    Each price is only valid for its given area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    Depends on which NEC version applies, 2014 says you don't need to add AFCI's if you haven't extended any of the circuits that otherwise require AFCI by more then six feet. See exception following 210.12(B).
    Was there an NEC version that required AFCI for a panel change? I don't recall such language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrofelon View Post
    Was there an NEC version that required AFCI for a panel change? I don't recall such language.
    It was not written as so per se, but the rule of modifying or extending a circuit was often applied to panel swaps/ up grades.
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