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    Ran into a different service panel today. Is this ok.

    This is a 60amp service with the main at the bottom. It has 50amp breaker for the subpanel. Other then not having a clip on the main. Do you guys see any other issues?. Looking for a second opinion.

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    There are a few issues. Looks like there are 3 or more equipment grounding conductor's under the same screw, there are white wires untaped under a breaker and I am not sure what is going on with the main- can't read it and it looks like tape over it for some reason. Also, wires don't appear to be stapled within 12"
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    That panel can't be more than a couple of years old. It's a SqD plug-on neutral. What are you doing with it?

    The main backfed breaker doesn't appear to have a hold-down screw.

    There are a lot of breakers in there for a 60 amp main and a 50 amp sub-feed, but if it's overloaded the main breaker should trip so no danger.

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    Costumer wants to get up to NEC so inspector will pass it. They bought the small commercial building this way. Most this service runs is a computer and some lights.

    Looking for opinions on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
    There are a few issues. Looks like there are 3 or more equipment grounding conductor's under the same screw, there are white wires untaped under a breaker and I am not sure what is going on with the main- can't read it and it looks like tape over it for some reason. Also, wires don't appear to be stapled within 12"
    I could be wrong, but I think that the white wires are not on the breakers.

    Possible the camera angles make it just look like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumper View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think that the white wires are not on the breakers.

    Possible the camera angles make it just look like that.
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    Is that big bare copper wire going out of the bottom the GEC, meaning it is going to the grounding electrode making this the point at which the neutral is bonded? If not, then you can't mix the ground and neutrals on the same bars. If the neutral is bonded in that Murray panel above it (with the seal on it), then this is NOT the Service Entrance and the G and N bars would have to be separate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jraef View Post
    Is that big bare copper wire going out of the bottom the GEC, meaning it is going to the grounding electrode making this the point at which the neutral is bonded? If not, then you can't mix the ground and neutrals on the same bars. If the neutral is bonded in that Murray panel above it (with the seal on it), then this is NOT the Service Entrance and the G and N bars would have to be separate.
    This is the service. That murry box is the for the a-base meter. That is the ground wire to water main.
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    Is that meter a old A base meter, ie only one phase?

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