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    Quote Originally Posted by DBoone View Post
    I will be going back tomorrow to meet with my floor guy. I will check the receptacle. Any good way to trace down the other end of the cable besides opening up kitchen counter boxes, undo the connections and check continuity with my meter?
    Sure. De-energize the circuit and push a fish-tape in the conduit and listen for the end to hit the inside of a box nearby, maybe with the help of a second person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBoone View Post
    I will be going back tomorrow to meet with my floor guy. I will check the receptacle. Any good way to trace down the other end of the cable besides opening up kitchen counter boxes, undo the connections and check continuity with my meter?
    Here is a cheap Klein Digital circuit breaker finder that sells for $41.37.
    It should also indicate the hot contact of receptacles upstream of the island receptacle the transmitter is plugged into. I do know the several hundred dollar circuit/breaker finders do. Touch the receiver against the hot (smaller slot) of the face of the receptacle.

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-To...T300/202330830

    https://data.kleintools.com/sites/al...structions.pdf

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    Won't a breaker finder indicate at every receptacle on the circuit?
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    Larry B. Fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFine View Post
    Won't a breaker finder indicate at every receptacle on the circuit?
    Yes, up stream. In a kitchen how many outlets can there be on the circuit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFine View Post
    Sure. De-energize the circuit and push a fish-tape in the conduit and listen for the end to hit the inside of a box nearby, maybe with the help of a second person.
    Caution: What if the de-energized circuit is part of a multi-wire branch circuit? The box the fish tape is pushed into could have the hot from the other circuit of the multi-wire branch circuit made up on an outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesco View Post
    Caution: What if the de-energized circuit is part of a multi-wire branch circuit? The box the fish tape is pushed into could have the hot from the other circuit of the multi-wire branch circuit made up on an outlet.
    So, de-energize them all, if not on a 2-pole breaker.
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    Larry B. Fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFine View Post
    So, de-energize them all, if not on a 2-pole breaker.

    It is possible, though not likely, for there to be two independent circuits in a box even if neither of them is an MWBC.

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    Thanks everyone for the advice and suggestions. I will keep you updated.

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