LED retrofit kits and title 24 energy code

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wyreman

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Location
SF CA USA
Occupation
electrical contractor
I put in a number of LED retrofit kits
And the directions say
That if you want
to permanently create
an energy-efficient fixture
You can cut the socket
out of the existing fixture
And hardwire the LED kit on the premise wire

Does anyone have experience
using a airtight 6 inch remodel can
with an LED retrofit kit
to comply with California title 24?
It seems significantly cheaper

I got a call in to the inspector now
 

Fitzdrew516

Senior Member
Location
Cincinnati, OH
I put in a number of LED retrofit kits
And the directions say
That if you want
to permanently create
an energy-efficient fixture
You can cut the socket
out of the existing fixture
And hardwire the LED kit on the premise wire

Does anyone have experience
using a airtight 6 inch remodel can
with an LED retrofit kit
to comply with California title 24?
It seems significantly cheaper

I got a call in to the inspector now

First thought is that you'd be violating a UL listing so I would be cautious of that. Secondly, may I ask why you are trying to do this specifically?
 

wyreman

Senior Member
Location
SF CA USA
Occupation
electrical contractor
I wasn't familiar with the material
and I now see you can just buy them
Probably made
Embarrassed :/

"I have always something to repent for
after having spoken,
but have never been sorry
for having been silent"
- St Arsenius
 

Fulthrotl

~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
I put in a number of LED retrofit kits
And the directions say
That if you want
to permanently create
an energy-efficient fixture
You can cut the socket
out of the existing fixture
And hardwire the LED kit on the premise wire

Does anyone have experience
using a airtight 6 inch remodel can
with an LED retrofit kit
to comply with California title 24?
It seems significantly cheaper

I got a call in to the inspector now

if the LED retrofit is listed for title 24:2013
you shoud be ok, provided of course that you
remove the socket and splice on the wago
connector, or whatever your device has.

a question arises, however, as it seems you
are in san francisco. if you changed more than
10% of the lighting in a remodel, it throws the
whole thing into title 24:2013 compliance.
you don't want to do that. trust me.
depending on what you have installed already,
this can be horribly expensive, on many levels.

assuming it's permitted, you'll have to provide
title 24:2013 acceptance certification. pricing
on this can vary widely, with a small occupancy
going from $1,800 or so to $4,500. that is just
for the paperwork.

before you change ANYTHING, speak to your
inspector, and see what he wants you to provide.

it varies widely across the state. any advice you get
on here, unless it's from someone who has worked
under that building inspector, can be very expensive
advice to follow.
 

cowboyjwc

Moderator
Staff member
Location
Simi Valley, CA
There were many retrofit kits out there, but they were not all approved by the Energy Commission. If they are not on the approved list then they should not be accepted by the AHJ. Cree is one that says that they comply, but they don't, or didn't, I haven't checked recently.
 
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