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    So do you want to see how they addressed the Peninsular Issue?

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    Hope you can see the image. It is extracted from TerraView and is the CMP 2 solution to the issue of the connecting edge and how to determine the receptacles at the islands and peninsular but also covers the counters also. Here is their code panel response as well.

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    I see more issues that this will create......

    Ahhh...nevermind.....the screen captures are too small and I am too lazy to type it all. Basically, it is getting rid of the island and peninsular rules and saying you have to have a receptacle within 3' of any point on the surface and so while that may be ok, it also gave an option for wall spacing to use the same option which makes the normal 24" rules the ability to option of out.....well you will see it when it is actually released. I was hoping the images would work but they are just too small.
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    This image may help explain it....and will help with your public comments to possible fix this unless you think this makes it better.
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    I see big problems with this on peninsulars and islands. These units are not designed for receptacles except at the ends, in most cases anyway.


    Better talk with designers before they build those islands and peninsulars
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    I added a bit more to make sure EVERYONE knows what they are trying to do.....Sorry for the crude image...I am at the NEMA Meetings and created this on the fly.....the final graphic will be cleaner but wanted you all to see one of the first drafts on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Alwon View Post
    I see big problems with this on peninsulars and islands. These units are not designed for receptacles except at the ends, in most cases anyway.


    Better talk with designers before they build those islands and peninsular
    I see even more issues with this.....basically it is giving you an "OR" option which seems to remove the 24" wall spacing requirement since it gives an option now to space at 24" or so that no point is more than 36 in.....if you read their substantiation they say it can be either.
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    Anyway.....They deviated from mu PI which would have solved the issue that the 2017 NEC Created. So I urge you all to get your PC's ready and enjoy the process because there are ALOT of big changes coming in the 2020.
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    Pretty ridiculous,

    If you have a Very large island or peninsula 1 or even 2 receptacles will not work. I did a home years ago and the island took 2 complete slabs it was like 5 feet by 10 feet with a sizable overhang at the width. This scenario will present some new solutions to deal with.

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