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    I think it is time to for this requirement to be re evaluated.
    Its cost me plenty. Both in money and unhappy customers.

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    Change them out to regular breakers after inspection.. problem solved

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    Where’s Paul Harvey when you need him. The fleasing of America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelec View Post
    Change them out to regular breakers after inspection.. problem solved

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    Yea right, Not me.

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    Troubleshooting afci Breakers usually goes like this for us:

    1) get to residence, find out appliance X does not work on one of several afci circuits.

    2) plug appliance into other afci circuits, it works fine.

    3) replace afci breaker with one with a different color label.

    The best sound in the world is an afci breaker hitting the bottom of a steel dumpster
    Electricians do it until it Hertz!

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    Yes afci technology will cost you as an EC, either in time or credibility, there's been no way around it.

    One can, if one wishes , extend the afci diagnostics via manufacturers via their own toolage>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9_N5exFPg

    Then there are those who would try and disprove and dismiss them (this was in a '14 rop)>

    https://youtu.be/iLmC5quELrE

    Further would be concern for that which is purely technical , because there have been so many conflicting manufacturers articles in our trade rags, only one has remained beyond reproach by them, and subsequently boycotted by ALL trade rags (which usually grace my woodstove)

    http://www.combinationafci.com/resou...ation_afci.pdf

    I would encourage the proliferation of this ^^^

    ~RJ~

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    We all have probably read the 2012 IEEE article and there is good info in there. In the 6 years since 2012, has anything else of substance been written about improvements and/or changes in the AFCI devices??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFletcher View Post
    Troubleshooting afci Breakers usually goes like this for us:

    1) get to residence, find out appliance X does not work on one of several afci circuits.

    2) plug appliance into other afci circuits, it works fine.

    3) replace afci breaker with one with a different color label.

    The best sound in the world is an afci breaker hitting the bottom of a steel dumpster


    The sound of them being smashed with a sledge is pretty satisfying too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czars View Post
    We all have probably read the 2012 IEEE article and there is good info in there. In the 6 years since 2012, has anything else of substance been written about improvements and/or changes in the AFCI devices??
    Nothing along the lines of technical improvements , mostly manufacturers nefarious stats ,along with more applicable fits as they see them

    ~RJ~

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    Hey, maybe something good can come from China: Are they counterfeiting AFCI breakers yet? Regular breaker in an AFCI case, someone must be doing this.
    Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

    "You can't generalize"

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