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    Cost of AFCI breaker vs Receptacle

    So AFCI receptacles have really come down in price. What are your thoughts on the cost difference of using AFCI receptacles at the first outlet box and running MC for the HR? Aluminum MC is not much more than Romex in my area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSparks View Post
    So AFCI receptacles have really come down in price. What are your thoughts on the cost difference of using AFCI receptacles at the first outlet box and running MC for the HR? Aluminum MC is not much more than Romex in my area.


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    Its something to consider. The receptacles are much less finicky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSparks View Post
    So AFCI receptacles have really come down in price. What are your thoughts on the cost difference of using AFCI receptacles at the first outlet box and running MC for the HR? Aluminum MC is not much more than Romex in my area.


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    My inspector in upstate NY (private third party agency) allows an AFCI recep at first outlet, even fed with ramen. Its pretty sweet, I run with it. Although I often still use breakers for the general lighting/receps as I see it as a hassle down the road if a recep behind a couch were to trip = service call, etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrofelon View Post
    My inspector in upstate NY (private third party agency) allows an AFCI recep at first outlet, even fed with ramen. Its pretty sweet, I run with it. Although I often still use breakers for the general lighting/receps as I see it as a hassle down the road if a recep behind a couch were to trip = service call, etc....
    Under what grounds is the inspector allowing rope to the first receptacle ( AFCI) . I thought there still was no listed pair breaker/ Outlet combo. Is this something to look forward to in the 2017 code?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierrasparky View Post
    Under what grounds is the inspector allowing rope to the first receptacle ( AFCI) . I thought there still was no listed pair breaker/ Outlet combo. Is this something to look forward to in the 2017 code?
    He just says he is the AHJ and its his interpretation.
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    Well, he's wrong. We in NY are on the 2014 code.

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    Not to get too off-topic, but here, generally, the inspectors will allow an easier version of the code if it supersedes the one we are currently on
    (And if you point it out). I may be wrong, however I believe they have the authority to do that. I don't know if the 2017 NEC allows Romex to an afci receptacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hbiss View Post
    Well, he's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFletcher View Post
    Not to get too off-topic, but here, generally, the inspectors will allow an easier version of the code if it supersedes the one we are currently on
    (And if you point it out). I may be wrong, however I believe they have the authority to do that. I don't know if the 2017 NEC allows Romex to an afci receptacle.
    Nope. No change in the 2017. The receptacle has to be part of a listed receptacle/breaker combination and the receptacle has to be located in an accessible location. AFAIK there are no listed receptacle/breaker combination devices being made.

    So that should answer the OPs question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hbiss View Post
    Nope. No change in the 2017. The receptacle has to be part of a listed receptacle/breaker combination and the receptacle has to be located in an accessible location. AFAIK there are no listed receptacle/breaker combination devices being made.

    So that should answer the OPs question.

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