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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
    Switch rooms and substations are generally unoccupied. Same with pumping stations.
    Just sayin'
    I guess if you want to be technical with definition of occupied - yes. I don't know what word to use for what I meant, but if no one is ever there for even really minor maintenance - even just sweeping the floor on occasion, a lot of things seem to deteriorate pretty rapidly. My comment was mostly aimed at houses, and similarly constructed/used spaces though. Little deficiencies that go unnoticed simply because nobody is ever there seem to turn into big deficiencies pretty rapidly.

    I see a lot of old, (and even newer) farmhouses that once left unoccupied go to hell in a short time.

    Little leak in the roof? If someone is living there, probably does something about it. Even if nothing more then placing a catch bucket on the floor - at least that protects the floor. Nobody there at all now you have a leaking roof a damaged floor, and who knows what else it leads to.
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    WiFI communications may be desired for home security reasons. Say you are away on vacation, wouldn't it be nice to know your garage door was being opened? How about learning that a water heater that is heating when no one is supposed to be home? I like the idea of being able to login to my vacation home and adjust the temperature so every thing is ready when I arrive. It is nice to be able to check if the setbacks have been made at the end of the stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    I guess if you want to be technical with definition of occupied - yes. I don't know what word to use for what I meant, but if no one is ever there for even really minor maintenance - even just sweeping the floor on occasion, a lot of things seem to deteriorate pretty rapidly. My comment was mostly aimed at houses, and similarly constructed/used spaces though. Little deficiencies that go unnoticed simply because nobody is ever there seem to turn into big deficiencies pretty rapidly.

    I see a lot of old, (and even newer) farmhouses that once left unoccupied go to hell in a short time.

    Little leak in the roof? If someone is living there, probably does something about it. Even if nothing more then placing a catch bucket on the floor - at least that protects the floor. Nobody there at all now you have a leaking roof a damaged floor, and who knows what else it leads to.
    Regular routine inspections would do and not require occupancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim dungar View Post
    WiFI communications may be desired for home security reasons. Say you are away on vacation, wouldn't it be nice to know your garage door was being opened? How about learning that a water heater that is heating when no one is supposed to be home? I like the idea of being able to login to my vacation home and adjust the temperature so every thing is ready when I arrive. It is nice to be able to check if the setbacks have been made at the end of the stay.
    Storage tank type water heaters do heat when nobody is home. But unless there is malfunction that heating is only for maintenance of tank temperature as needed. That malfunction is often a bigger concern then the fact the tank is being heated.

    Garage door opened? The wifi capable garage door opener only would tell you the status of the opener. If someone broke the door down or pulled the release lever and opened the door - the opener is still in "closed position". A "security system" has a better chance of telling you an intruder was there. Wireless remotes for door openers have complex enough signaling you don't accidentally have stray RF signals opening the door like you may have years ago. And you can't just go around a neighborhood with a remote and see how many doors it will open on it's current setting like you once could either. That was a fun activity when I was a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hbiss View Post
    As I said above that's EXACTLY my point! Again, as the owner of a rental house or unit you would be crazy to not have someone working for you (if you aren't close enough yourself) to look after the property whenever guests arrive, leave and during their stay to make sure they abide by the rental agreement and are not trashing the place. No way would I just hand over the keys. If you don't keep an eye on them you get renters throwing wild drunken parties with 100 people destroying the place. Makes your water heater the least of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    I guess if you want to be technical with definition of occupied - yes. I don't know what word to use for what I meant, but if no one is ever there for even really minor maintenance - even just sweeping the floor on occasion, a lot of things seem to deteriorate pretty rapidly. My comment was mostly aimed at houses, and similarly constructed/used spaces though. Little deficiencies that go unnoticed simply because nobody is ever there seem to turn into big deficiencies pretty rapidly.

    I see a lot of old, (and even newer) farmhouses that once left unoccupied go to hell in a short time.

    Little leak in the roof? If someone is living there, probably does something about it. Even if nothing more then placing a catch bucket on the floor - at least that protects the floor. Nobody there at all now you have a leaking roof a damaged floor, and who knows what else it leads to.
    Have you seen the size of homes we have around lake tahoe? Some of these folks are so cheap , they would rather use remote devices then pay a caretaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierrasparky View Post
    Have you seen the size of homes we have around lake tahoe? Some of these folks are so cheap , they would rather use remote devices then pay a caretaker.
    On the other end...we just got back from vacation, again. Happen to talk to an electrician in Creed, CO whose main job was to keep a vacation home operational. They have their own Hydro electric and are about 8 miles from utility. If wife had not been with me I would have bought beer just to go have a look see.
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    I'm old school, have an Intermatic timer on mine, with a contactor hooked up to a switch so I can override the timer, let the heater work full time if I wish.
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    Crazy or not. The world today has changed. You have Air B&b , Vacasa, Homeaway...........
    It ain't like it used to be. The market is very disruptive... Have you seen the size of homes we have around lake tahoe? Some of these folks are so cheap , they would rather use remote devices then pay a caretaker.
    Who cleans, changes the linens, fumigates between rental customers? You can't do that remotely. I wouldn't even want to rent something that wasn't properly cleaned before I got there. That would be disgusting. You're right, the world has changed. Who knows what went on there before you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hbiss View Post
    Who cleans, changes the linens, fumigates between rental customers? You can't do that remotely. I wouldn't even want to rent something that wasn't properly cleaned before I got there. That would be disgusting. You're right, the world has changed. Who knows what went on there before you.

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