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    Hours from the past.

    Hi everyone, I've recently passed the Texas Journeyman electricians exam. I had been an apprentice for 11 yrs documented.
    Are the extra hours I logged as an apprentice able to be applied towards my Master license eligibility now that I am a Journeyman? Texas states must hold journeyman card for 2 yrs.
    I may or may not have the opportunity to log hours through a master during the next 2 years.
    Thank You
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darenger View Post
    Hi everyone, I've recently passed the Texas Journeyman electricians exam. I had been an apprentice for 11 yrs documented.
    Are the extra hours I logged as an apprentice able to be applied towards my Master license eligibility now that I am a Journeyman? Texas states must hold journeyman card for 2 yrs.
    I may or may not have the opportunity to log hours through a master during the next 2 years.
    Thank You
    TEXAS
    My guess is no. Here those hours wouldn't count. Here you only need to hold a journeyman license for a year before eligible to test for contractor license (there is no "master" anymore). But I don't think they even ask for work hours once you attain an electrical license, you just need such hours to be able to qualify to even test for the initial license (the journeyman or certain "special installers" licenses. Now to move up from those special installers licenses there may still need to be experience documentation, I'm not certain.

    Here apprentices are not licensed - they are registered in order to help with track their work experiences for the purpose of attaining licensing. There may be ways to be granted the experience but being registered usually means less hoops to jump through to be granted acceptable experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    My guess is no. Here those hours wouldn't count. Here you only need to hold a journeyman license for a year before eligible to test for contractor license (there is no "master" anymore). But I don't think they even ask for work hours once you attain an electrical license, you just need such hours to be able to qualify to even test for the initial license (the journeyman or certain "special installers" licenses. Now to move up from those special installers licenses there may still need to be experience documentation, I'm not certain.

    Here apprentices are not licensed - they are registered in order to help with track their work experiences for the purpose of attaining licensing. There may be ways to be granted the experience but being registered usually means less hoops to jump through to be granted acceptable experience.

    kwired....Thank you for your insight although in Texas it seems it may be different than NE. I may me putting too much thought into this but the T.D.L.R says this.

    - 12,000 hours of on-the-job training under the supervision of a master electrician;
    - Hold a journeyman electrician license for at least two years;
    - Passing score on the master electrician examination.

    I interpret it as ...YES.... I'll be eligible in two years even if I don't log any more hours.

    Any thoughts are appreciated.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Darenger View Post
    kwired....Thank you for your insight although in Texas it seems it may be different than NE. I may me putting too much thought into this but the T.D.L.R says this.

    - 12,000 hours of on-the-job training under the supervision of a master electrician;
    - Hold a journeyman electrician license for at least two years;
    - Passing score on the master electrician examination.

    I interpret it as ...YES.... I'll be eligible in two years even if I don't log any more hours.

    Any thoughts are appreciated.







    Depends if there is an "and" or an "or" in the actual wording. If those are the three key things, seems passing the exam will always be required - so probably an "and" in there - if so you must meet all three requirements.
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    Welcome to The Forum. Condition number two, must have held a journeyman's license for 2 years, is what I think will get you. Doesn't matter if you pass your Masters exam with a 100% score and have 30000 hours under a master electrician, it seems to me that it will take two years from the time you obtain your journeymans to the time you obtain your masters.
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    Guys thanks for your input......Obviously I have to wait 2 years. I know that.
    That isn't my question.

    This is copy and pasted from T.D.L.R. website.

    Master Electrician
    - 12,000 hours of on-the-job training under the supervision of a master electrician;
    - Hold a journeyman electrician license for at least two years;
    - Passing score on the master electrician examination.

    Am I wrong the way I'm interpreting this?
    I already have the hours.....even though I just obtained Journeyman Electricians license 4 days ago.
    I logged the hours as an apprentice.
    I likely will not have a chance to log hours through a master during the next two years.

    My course of action: Take the Master Exam in 2 years......regardless of whether or not I log any hours AS A JOURNEYMAN.

    Now do you guys see what I am asking?

    I'm calling the TDLR tomorrow....but I think it's worth the discussion.





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    It does not appear you have to log any hours as a journeyman. You will probably have to wait till Tuesday to talk to somebody official though, tomorrow's a holiday
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    The Monday Holiday Strikes Again!!!!......that's probably the fifth time in a week I've said "See you Monday", or "I'll follow up Monday"

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darenger View Post
    Guys thanks for your input......Obviously I have to wait 2 years. I know that.
    That isn't my question.

    This is copy and pasted from T.D.L.R. website.

    Master Electrician
    - 12,000 hours of on-the-job training under the supervision of a master electrician;
    - Hold a journeyman electrician license for at least two years;
    - Passing score on the master electrician examination.

    Am I wrong the way I'm interpreting this?
    I already have the hours.....even though I just obtained Journeyman Electricians license 4 days ago.
    I logged the hours as an apprentice.
    I likely will not have a chance to log hours through a master during the next two years.

    My course of action: Take the Master Exam in 2 years......regardless of whether or not I log any hours AS A JOURNEYMAN.

    Now do you guys see what I am asking?

    I'm calling the TDLR tomorrow....but I think it's worth the discussion.




    I agree it isn't really clear what they intend to mean.

    But if you consider that you will need to be a Jman at least two years and that there are 730 days in two years, that means if you must get 12000 hours in those two years that is over 16 hours a day and doesn't even allow for getting any days off at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwired View Post
    I agree it isn't really clear what they intend to mean.

    But if you consider that you will need to be a Jman at least two years and that there are 730 days in two years, that means if you must get 12000 hours in those two years that is over 16 hours a day and doesn't even allow for getting any days off at all.

    Exactly....The numbers alone are what lead me into questioning about this.
    I'm likely overthinking it, but I suppose that's what arena's such as this are for.....ehe?

    Thanks

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