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    MV Cable Pull

    What do you guys think about this setup/cable pull? Is it a good idea to have the reels on the trucks like that. Actually bidding a similar situation where where are pulling 3#500 MV cables into a 4" duct bank?
    If you have a 400' run of existing conduit with a manhole in the middle of the run would I assume you would pull all the way through....setting up the reels at one end and the tugger at the other??? If you had a 90 degree turn at the manhole in the run how would you guide the cables to make that turn in the mahole? Thanks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yXgo7WjoE

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstrlucky74 View Post
    What do you guys think about this setup/cable pull? Is it a good idea to have the reels on the trucks like that. Actually bidding a similar situation where where are pulling 3#500 MV cables into a 4" duct bank?
    If you have a 400' run of existing conduit with a manhole in the middle of the run would I assume you would pull all the way through....setting up the reels at one end and the tugger at the other??? If you had a 90 degree turn at the manhole in the run how would you guide the cables to make that turn in the mahole? Thanks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yXgo7WjoE
    at some point, you really need some field hands with your company that you can
    discuss this sort of thing with. there are too many variables to be addressed to
    make an answer from the internet worth the time to read, or to write.

    i've pulled (4) 500mcm aluminum feeders 725' in a 4" conduit, solo. no crew. by myself.

    didn't use reel jacks, either. used unistrut bolted to the top of tall K-rail for spool caddys.
    2" grc clamped, with 1 1/2" grc sleeved inside to prevent flex. empty spool on an axle across
    a forklift for guidance.

    used triggers for starting, and a target cam for monitoring the feed. worked fine. took about
    two hours to pull. meggered it before i cut the wire. briefly hit 1,000# drawbar pull going around
    the last 90.

    that is the limit to what i can put in an email.

    you want to see how that works in person? i'm $5k a day, plus milage. two day minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    you want to see how that works in person? i'm $5k a day, plus milage. two day minimum.
    bitcoin accepted.
    "Have Kleins, Will Travel" reads the card of a man...
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    nothing wrong with that set up- but,
    is this your pull? ill assume not...

    where in the run is the pull box?

    why is there always one guy holding the dang small wire?!

    where are the radios?

    and last, starting and stopping the pulls like that are risky- one "go" sure was abrupt.. gently loading the head is a good idea.. anyhow, depending on where the ground vault is on the run, it might be a good idea to set up reels in the middle, do the long pull then peel off and slam the short run. its quicker to leave the reels in one spot- at least in some situations... when the reels get low there is always the risk of pulling them off the truck... what are you using for tugging?

    edit- post a pic of the Christy box, make darn sure its big enough for (2) 4" 90deg stubs and are spaced far enough apart. were big 4"sweeps used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post

    used triggers for starting, and a target cam for monitoring the feed. worked fine. took about
    two hours to pull. meggered it before i cut the wire. briefly hit 1,000# drawbar pull going around
    the last 90.

    that is the limit to what i can put in an email.

    you want to see how that works in person? i'm $5k a day, plus milage. two day minimum.
    bitcoin accepted.
    hey, get the job then you can hire me for my paltry pay then you can read the paper! are you telling me you were not scared to do that solo? holy cow...

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    At that rate, they’ll get 25’ pulled in per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFine View Post
    "Have Kleins, Will Travel" reads the card of a man...
    it took more than a pair of kleins to pull that one off.

    a van and a trailer full of crap, and a full days prep to set it up right.
    2,500' spools of 500mcm are awkward to set up by yourself.
    i'd a not been able to do copper solo. too much weight to get it
    started.

    simpull kicks ass. and i'm getting too old for this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulthrotl View Post
    it took more than a pair of kleins to pull that one off.

    a van and a trailer full of crap, and a full days prep to set it up right.
    2,500' spools of 500mcm are awkward to set up by yourself.
    i'd a not been able to do copper solo. too much weight to get it
    started.

    simpull kicks ass. and i'm getting too old for this stuff.
    That's what I'm thinking we have about 30 different duct banks where we are pulling through 7-4" conduits at an average distance of 500'. I would think the setup for each pull will be time consuming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambojoe View Post
    hey, get the job then you can hire me for my paltry pay then you can read the paper! are you telling me you were not scared to do that solo? holy cow...
    if i hire you, then i have to do workers comp and a bezillion other things.
    it's easier just to do it solo. i do appreciate the offer however.

    doing things like that solo is better. no witnesses to post videos to
    social media.

    besides, i've seen what "wire pulling" crews can do.

    ever seen a crew pull in feeders off a WEMCO reel without pulling
    the lock pin? idjits didn't even know there was a lock pin.

    five 500MCM conductors 350' long, ruined. when i got there, the
    undersized ground wire had overspeeded the spool, and they had a
    ball of wire 30' in diameter all tangled up. instead of stopping and
    figuring out the problem, they just kept pulling.

    i could go on, as there are a bunch of things you see in 40 years of
    this, and that was the message to the OP. he needs to talk to HIS
    guys that will do the pull, and get them sorted out.

    not us.
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    i was kinda kidding... besides, at 5k a day you could make enough to file for financial responsibility/comp exempt! mv cable really is not that tough- but it can still get ruined quickly... I do enjoy big pulls though.

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