emahler said:We are doing a project right now where the A/E's are adamant about all wiring #10 and smaller must be solid....
can anyone give me a viable reason (other than "it's easier to wire a device") that would justify this requirement?
thanks
emahler said:A/E's are adamant about all wiring #10 and smaller must be solid....can anyone give me a viable reason
mdshunk said:It's easier to wire the device.
Was that something Mortimer Ichabod the marker said?emahler said:Marc, remember RIF? Reading Is Fundamental? nah, i didn't think you did
Hey I love those stab in outlets and switches for residential. You can only use them for 14 guage not 12 but they are awesome IMHO. I've never had a problem with them. I've never had one pop out on me. They're great. I know commercial guys tend to think they are crap but they are huge timesavers.bbaumer said:If the Engineer gives the option of solid or stranded and solid is cheaper and easier then why do the EC's always use stranded?
I've been out of the EC game for a long while but when I was solid was cheaper but not by much at all. I think it was less then $1 per thousand cheaper.
If you allow combo side and back wired devices (not the stab-in-the-back pieces of junk but the screw compression type) then I don't think terminating devices is any easier with solid.
steelersman said:Hey I love those stab in outlets and switches for residential. You can only use them for 14 guage not 12 but they are awesome IMHO. I've never had a problem with them. I've never had one pop out on me. They're great. I know commercial guys tend to think they are crap but they are huge timesavers.
steelersman said:Hey I love those stab in outlets and switches for residential. You can only use them for 14 guage not 12 but they are awesome IMHO. I've never had a problem with them. I've never had one pop out on me. They're great. I know commercial guys tend to think they are crap but they are huge timesavers.
Dennis Alwon said:I love them also. I can't tell you how many service calls I get from you EC's that use the pop ins. You keep me employed. Thanks.:grin:
emahler said:bbaumer, that's the point...what's the difference and why are they so adamant about using solid....when using back wired spec devices, the pressure plates actually make a better connection to stranded in my opinion....also, stranded #10 is easier to work with than solid #10....
i'm just not understanding the logic, if there is any....
Same here. I go back and fourth, mostly depending on what it'll be used for on the ends, and what type of devices are being used. I like pulling stranded better, but I hate myself if I have to terminate it around a screw.peter d said:Solid or stranded?
Yes.
mdshunk said:I like pulling stranded better, but I hate myself if I have to terminate it around a screw.