California CEU?

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e57

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Anyone have information on who is providing, and what the requirement of the CEU's will be?

I have three years for this to become a reality, and don't want to be caught at the last minuite!

Yes, this is a loaded question!!!!!!
 

Bob NH

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I have to get CEUs to maintain my PE. There seems to have developed a business of holding expensive seminars to spend time to collect hours for your CEUs.

The objective is the hours and the seminar doesn't always relate to teaching you anything you didn't already know. The focus is on paying some guy a lot of money to make PowerPoint presentations for $400 to $600 per day (which is usually about 6 hours).

Since I am mostly retired but want to maintain my license, and don't have an employer to pay for CEU seminars, I shop around. I find the university correspondence courses are pretty economical and quite good. I got my last three from the University of Wisconsin.

For electricians, you might want to look at community colleges or vocational schools. If you are employed at a substantial company, maybe they will cover costs. You might have time to negotiate that with your employer if there are a lot of you.

Another possibility would be to get your employer to conduct training in the company for several people. They could keep records of that training and certify that people have earned the hours and CEUs.

If your employer will pay the tuition for a college course, you can often get all the CEUs you need for a renewal cycle from a single course.
 

e57

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The 'loaded' portion of the question is that the requirements of "Approved Provider" are yet unknown with the law....

Any course-work taken may not be acceptable......
 

bkludecke

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I'll bet my $$ on IAEI courses that offer CEUs but I see your point. But if the CEU enforcement is like the cert enforcement just pay me your $$ & I'll take care of everything.
 

sandsnow

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e57 said:
The 'loaded' portion of the question is that the requirements of "Approved Provider" are yet unknown with the law....

Any course-work taken may not be acceptable......

You are misinformed there e57.

Anyone approved to provide continuing ed to allow you to work is an approved provider for CEU's. The classes have to be subjects listed in the the State published curricula. I will get that link up later.
 

sandsnow

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bkludecke said:
I'll bet my $$ on IAEI courses that offer CEUs but I see your point. But if the CEU enforcement is like the cert enforcement just pay me your $$ & I'll take care of everything.

IAEI courses should be approved as Mike Holt, Stallcup etc.

Current interpretation is they are not.

IF you wanted to get them pre-approved by calling the State (if you can get thru) then I'm 90% sure they would let them count toward your CEU.
 

e57

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sandsnow said:
You are misinformed there e57.

Anyone approved to provide continuing ed to allow you to work is an approved provider for CEU's. The classes have to be subjects listed in the the State published curricula. I will get that link up later.

You talking about this list? http://www.dir.ca.gov/das/ListOfApprovedSchoolsDetail.html#101

I've called a few (remotely) near me recently, and have gotten the "Not sure about it yet" and "we might be soon" answers... Theres a number of "Trainee" and "Apprenticeship" programs, but have not found any specific to CEU's as of yet. (Took a break in typing here to look again...) I found ONE! Dang expensive though....:mad:
http://www.abcsd.org/user-assets/Documents/Training%20Flyers/sbcRecrtyr.pdf

Web-based... I did not think that was allowed?
 
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Bob NH

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e57 said:
You talking about this list? http://www.dir.ca.gov/das/ListOfApprovedSchoolsDetail.html#101

(Took a break in typing here to look again...) I found ONE! Dang expensive though....:mad:
http://www.abcsd.org/user-assets/Documents/Training%20Flyers/sbcRecrtyr.pdf

Web-based... I did not think that was allowed?
Let's see what you get. You could take Ladders and Scaffolds (6.0), Fire extinguishers (2.0), Blueprint reading (7.0), Chemical health hazards (6.0), Electrical fasteners (4.0), amd Diagrams and Symbols (7.0); for a total of 32 required hours; and not learn a thing about how to hook up a transformer, or calculate the load for a range or motor, or calculate the conductor sizes and voltage drop for a string of light poles.

But Associated Builders and Contractors is going to collect $525 or $685 per head for putting their Power-Point presentation on line and having a computer score some kind of test.

There is a special mafia that feeds on these requirements for CEUs, and things like ISO certification. It is based on $ for checking the box; and very little about teaching something useful.
 

e57

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I totally agree $685 is staggering... It works out to about $21.40 an hour... :eek:

I can not vouch for this course in the slightest, not even sure if it is legal, as I have been watching this garbage law for some time now and figured that it was "Classroom" hours required.

http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ecu/LaborCode3099-3099_5.html
http://www.dir.ca.gov/t8/291_5.html

You see I was hoping to loose money by paying for a course, AND having to take off work to do it too....
 

e57

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I have seen 'approved' and 'class room' and both together, but have not seen anything suggesting it was OK for web-based. I might be missing something too.
 
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