jeff1166 said:Can you tell me the code reference to this question? Is it legal to run phone and power in the same conduit?
jeff1166 said:Can you tell me the code reference to this question? Is it legal to run phone and power in the same conduit?
Code section?A piece of NM cable and a phone cable are permitted in the same raceway.
don_resqcapt19 said:Trevor,
Code section?
Don
334.2 Definitions.
Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable. A factory assembly of two or more insulated conductors enclosed within an overall nonmetallic jacket.
Trevor, if both the phone cable and the NM cable had no conductors in it. . .then fine, . . . put the cables together in an raceway. . .Is it legal to run phone and power in the same conduit?
800.133 Installation of Communications Wires, Cables, and Equipment
(A) Separation from Other Conductors
(1) In Raceways, Boxes,and Cables
(c) Electric Light, Power, Class 1, Non–Power-Limited Fire Alarm, and Medium Power Network-Powered Broadband Communications Circuits in Raceways, Compartments, and Boxes. Communications conductors shall not be placed in any raceway, compartment, outlet box, junction box, or similar fitting with conductors of electric light, power, Class 1, non–power-limited fire alarm, or medium power network-powered broadband communications circuits.
al hildenbrand said:The Op is: Trevor, if both the phone cable and the NM cable had no conductors in it. . .then fine, . . . put the cables together in an raceway. . .
800.133(A)(1)(c) simply says "conductors". . .if there is an assembly of conductors in a "cable", there are still conductors there that are called conductors. . .witness the NM definition you cite using the word "conductors".
If a cable, containing conductors, is placed together in a raceway with loose communication conductors or communication conductors in a cable assembly, those conductors, whether in a cable or not, are together in a single raceway.
Why do you understand that to be so? By your statements above, the phone cable is a cable. . .it is not conductors.infinity said:THHN and a phone cable in a conduit is prohibited
al hildenbrand said:I don't understand a bored hole in a stud to be a raceway.
al hildenbrand said:Why do you understand that to be so? By your statements above, the phone cable is a cable. . .it is not conductors.
infinity said:Are you also saying that a phone cable and a piece of NM cannot be installed within the same bored hole through a stud?
Huh?infinity said:You didn't answer the question.
Sure they're conductors. But by your logic, the phone conductors in a cable are a cable and therefore the phone cable is not a conductor and must be OK with THHN in a raceway.infinity said:But the THHN is conductors.