wbalsam1
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celtic said:......Kind of like EI's who make up the code as they go along to prove they are right :roll:
You mean there are people out there like that?????:grin:
celtic said:......Kind of like EI's who make up the code as they go along to prove they are right :roll:
romeo said:Sounds like this job was done in a State where property owners are permitted to do electrical work on their property without a license.
That is true in Massachusetts, however I will not issue a permit or do an inspection if there is no license number on the application.
Now I bet that opens a can of worms. Maybe some Ma. EC would like to comment.
growler said:How do you get away with this? They issue permits to homeowners here all the time, they don't like it but it's not a choice, it's the law. After about four trips and no real progress they will normally tell the HO to hire an electrician.
I don't think they like dealing with homeowners because they end up giving to much advice. It takes up a lot of time.
growler said:They don't like to charge a reinspection fee here and they really don't like to upset homeowners. I guess it's because homeowners have friends and relatives, they go to church, they have business contacts and they vote. Everyone has a boss and for most in government that boss is elected.
Just a thought.
Double lugged on the main side? Red tag - and call the POCO to cut the drop and remove the meter until it is re-inspected - that'll teach 'em! An EC would get no less treatment...smallfish said:(Feeder conductors are terminated with the service entrance conductors at the supply side main lugs of the main circuit breaker of the service panel and the feeders will need to be disconnected and protected by its own breaker on the load side of the main.)
celtic said:If a HO permit is allowed by law...who are you to deny them?
Kind of like EI's who make up the code as they along to prove they are right :roll:
romeo said:In Part) No person shall install FOR HIRE any electrical wiring (etc)without first or within five days (etc) by mailing or delivering a permit application(etc). The key words are FOR HIRE. The homeowner is not doing work for hire so a permit is not required.
Any person installing FOR HIRE electrical wiring (etc) shall notify the inspector upon the completion of the work.The inspector shall, within 5days
give approval or disapproval(etc) The work is not being done FOR HIRE so this section does not apply.
That is my opinion and may inspectors in Ma. are doing the same as I am.
celtic said:If a HO permit is allowed by law...who are you to deny them?
Kind of like EI's who make up the code as they along to prove they are right :roll:
romeo said:That is definitely not true of me. I always provide code sections that I feel have been violated and give the ec the option of finding me wrong.
Read my post about MGL and see where I am coming from.
All Mgl has to do is remove the words FOR HIRE and all would be well.
mpd said:celtic, what do you mean, let the work be performed without any protection for the future owner of the property
mpd said:celtic, you are talking about work done without a permit?
Twoskinsoneman said:This is insane. It just forces people to do work without a permit.
I am glad you opened your mouth - even though I may be critical - it helps me gain anothers perspective.romeo said:I almost shut my mouth about this issue, because I thought that I would be criticized, now I am glad that mentioned it.