Nail Plates are not 100% effective.

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sandsnow

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I always suspected this, but never knew for sure until I did it myself. I was sort of cheating in that I had all my weight behind the air chamber of my framing nailer. This was because the panel was a little warpped.



 

e57

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It might have blown through even if you didn't have your weight behind it. Then again it could have ricocheted and stuck in your eye.... I find that better to be in the pipe than your eye.... ;)

Next time take a red crayon and mark it "No Clavos!" - just to remind yourself..... :grin:
 

splinetto

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Missouri
I understand the reason for nail plates however why is it more important to protect the wire at the edge of the studs vs everywhere else...For ex..running 4/0 SER cable in walls, it is over 1.5 inches in diameter so in a 2x4 wall it will always be closer than 1.25 in to the finished wall but only has to be protected at the bored holes....
 

bikeindy

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sandsnow said:
I always suspected this, but never knew for sure until I did it myself. I was sort of cheating in that I had all my weight behind the air chamber of my framing nailer. This was because the panel was a little warpped.

I kind of assumed they called them nail guards refering to drywall nails I dont think i have seen a guy but up drywall with a nail gun.
 

paul

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Snohomish, WA
I'm one of those who feel you get what you have coming to you if you're using a nail gun to attach something to a finished wall, other than brad-nailing on the baseboard or trim. Reminds me of something Tim "The Toolman" Taylor would do. Arr Arr Arrrrrgh.
 

quogueelectric

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new york
bikeindy said:
I kind of assumed they called them nail guards refering to drywall nails I dont think i have seen a guy but up drywall with a nail gun.
That was my next question I never saw anyone hang sheetrock with a framing nail gun but I bet somewhere In the 50 states they are doing it.
 

electricalperson

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massachusetts
thats the reason why i try to avoid going through the studs where i can. a nail plate can stop a drywall screw installed with a normal drywall drill. but anything is possible especially if the drywaller goes by the name of superman. will it be our fault if someone drives a nail through a nail plate with a nailgun and caused a fire?
 

bikeindy

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Indianapolis IN
electricalperson said:
will it be our fault if someone drives a nail through a nail plate with a nailgun and caused a fire?


NO as long as you installed it correctly.. If i drill through a pipe doing remodle work it isint the plumbers fault...or is it.
 

infinity

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Even a code compliant installation with a bored hole 1.25" from the edge wouldn't have helped with a nail that long. So the fact that it penetrated a protective plate is somewhat meaningless.
 

iwire

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You just can't tell what might happen. :wink:

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e57

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While back a GC called and said the hit some wires putting up shear wall - yes there were live in an existing house - Hit hit just about everything in the wall and they only noticed because the compressor stopped. I just there and myself and the plumber were amazed by the liberal use of 16's for shear wall!!!!!
 

e57

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iwire said:
You just can't tell what might happen. :wink:

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Neighbor across the street had one of those in the living room just after I moved in... Which got me on the stop sign and speed bump brigade really quick.... People do 70 on my street drunk!
 

Jim W in Tampa

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Tampa Florida
e57 said:
Neighbor across the street had one of those in the living room just after I moved in... Which got me on the stop sign and speed bump brigade really quick.... People do 70 on my street drunk!

Poor truck what a shame to go this way.

Thats fake picture
 

quogueelectric

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Location
new york
Jim W in Tampa said:
I install them huricane straps with nail gun,yes they go thru with 90#
Positive placement yes I have 2 of them Nails are short tico nails tho. Most people arent drilling where the straps are unless they are adding a second story to an old gable end and reusing the old peak. A lot of cutting mitres and not as strong. Still gotta firestop the penetrations.
 

quogueelectric

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e57 said:
While back a GC called and said the hit some wires putting up shear wall - yes there were live in an existing house - Hit hit just about everything in the wall and they only noticed because the compressor stopped. I just there and myself and the plumber were amazed by the liberal use of 16's for shear wall!!!!!
Sawzall can be electricians best friend. For extras that is.
 

sandsnow

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e57 said:
It might have blown through even if you didn't have your weight behind it. Then again it could have ricocheted and stuck in your eye.... I find that better to be in the pipe than your eye.... ;)

Next time take a red crayon and mark it "No Clavos!" - just to remind yourself..... :grin:

I did hit a couple others using the gun one handed and they just hairpinned.

I had no excuse to hit this, the plumbing in the adjacent wall was exposed. I was just in a hurry.
 
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