Hot Tub Grounding

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The answers are no and no. You need to review Article 680. Particularly look at Part IV.
 

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mikeomie1918 said:
Do i have to use a ground rod or can i rely on the conduit as the ground to the gfi, connected to the house panel.

A ground rod is unnecessary and virtually useless. If you are running conduit then you must use an insulated ground as your EGC.

I am confused by your question of "can i rely on the conduit as the ground to the gfi" The conduit nor the ground gets connected to the GFCI.

Read 680 part IV as Trevor suggested
 

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Just some things to consider.

Is this a structure?

hot-tub.jpg


Is it 'separate'?

Does it have a feeder running to it?

250.32(A)
 

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iwire said:
Just some things to consider.

Is this a structure? Picture of Hot Tub-- saving space

Is it 'separate'?

Does it have a feeder running to it?

250.32(A)

That is a very valid question and one I know we can argue forever. I can only add that I have never been required to add a ground rod so either everyone here is not considering it a structure or they never even thought about it.
 

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or they never even thought about it.

That would be my bet.

There is no way that hot tub in the photo is not a 'structure' by NEC definition.

It was without a doubt built or constructed.
 
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Here is another take on it. Do you suppose the wire we run is just a branch circuit that feeds a factory assembled unit and it is not a feeder. Does the fact that the factory assembly has OCP determine if our wire becomes a feeder ???? :confused:
 

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Dennis Alwon said:
Here is another take on it. Do you suppose the wire we run is just a branch circuit that feeds a factory assembled unit and it is not a feeder. Does the fact that the factory assembly has OCP determine if our wire becomes a feeder ???? :confused:

I understand exactly what your saying and honestly I am not sure of the answer.
 
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