3 wires under a staple

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MF Dagger

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buckofdurham said:
Thiel brand has how many and what type written on the box.

No offense but when ever I see those plastic staples GB staples.
I think a home owner has been doing work in their.
90% of full time reisdential electricians use the metal staples.

I think this probably depends on the area. I hardly ever see metal staples in MN.
 
commin practis is only two wires of flat romex and 1 wire for round romex
12/3-10/3 and never staple the first wire then a second over that piggy back.a clean instalation keep our trade strong and reduses inspector hassel
 
ERIC LEDBETTER said:
commin practis is only two wires of flat romex and 1 wire for round romex
12/3-10/3 and never staple the first wire then a second over that piggy back.a clean instalation keep our trade strong and reduses inspector hassel
 

iaov

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Rhinelander WI
buckofdurham said:
Thiel brand has how many and what type written on the box.

No offense but when ever I see those plastic staples GB staples.
I think a home owner has been doing work in their.
90% of full time reisdential electricians use the metal staples.
No offence taken but I still don't think it is a good idea to pound metal into wires even if thats the way it has always been done.IMHO the plastic staple is a superior product.:smile:
 
Are you serious????????

Are you serious????????

ERIC LEDBETTER said:
commin practis is only two wires of flat romex and 1 wire for round romex
12/3-10/3 and never staple the first wire then a second over that piggy back.a clean instalation keep our trade strong and reduses inspector hassel


Are you really serious??? What states are you giving this advice to?:confused:
 

brantmacga

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I wonder how many wires this staple is listed to hold? I run into these a lot on service calls/remodels; especially on older homes. In case you're wondering, it is a fence staple, also known as a galvanized poultry netting staple (chicken wire fence).




I also see many of these:
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1 3/4" fence staple, mostly used for barbed-wire fence and a PITA to pull out of a fence post, not to mention a 2x6 joist.
 

brian john

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Leesburg, VA
What if the EC uses the large staples made for 6/3 NM, for 12/2?.

You know common sense, professional work practices and past expierence should dictate some of what we install as part of or job?
 

roger3829

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Location
Torrington, CT
I got this from Briscon..........

Briscon UL File # E204361

SN 40 B staple is UL listed for one cable
Cable sizes
Armored Cable 14/2 and 14/3
Metal Clad Cable 14/2 and 14/3
Non-Metallic Sheathed 14/2 through 10/3
Underground Feeder 14/2 and 12/2

SN 150 B is UL listed for one or two cables
Cable sizes
Non-Metallic Sheathed 14/2 through 10/3 one cable
Non-Metallic Sheathed 14/2 through 12/3 two cables in any combination
Underground Feeder 14/2 and 12/2 one cable
Underground Feeder 14/2 and 12/2 two cables

UL requires a staple to pass a 50 lb pull test if the cables are doubled up the SN 40 B it will not pass this test
The SN 150 B is 1/2" longer and will pass this test
 

iaov

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Rhinelander WI
brantmacga said:
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I wonder how many wires this staple is listed to hold? I run into these a lot on service calls/remodels; especially on older homes. In case you're wondering, it is a fence staple, also known as a galvanized poultry netting staple (chicken wire fence).




I also see many of these:
W3AS.jpg

1 3/4" fence staple, mostly used for barbed-wire fence and a PITA to pull out of a fence post, not to mention a 2x6 joist.
I see a lot of those on older/HO installations.
 

iaov

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Location
Rhinelander WI
buckofdurham said:
Thiel brand has how many and what type written on the box.

No offense but when ever I see those plastic staples GB staples.
I think a home owner has been doing work in their.
90% of full time reisdential electricians use the metal staples.
I love numbers. Could you enlighten me as to where you found the 90% statistic.:D
 

radiopet

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Location
Spotsylvania, VA
if the manufacturer lists their product to allow (2) cables under it then thats the products listing. If the product does not list (3) cables then it can't be used as such. The intent of the manufacturer is to use the product in accordance with its instructions.....why beat a dead horse...lol
 

Dennis Alwon

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Chapel Hill, NC
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Retired Electrical Contractor
2 of my post and one of radiopets posts are missing. I can't believe they were deleted for any reason but they are gone.
 

iwire

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Massachusetts
Dennis Alwon said:
2 of my post and one of radiopets posts are missing. I can't believe they were deleted for any reason but they are gone.

Are you sure they where in this thread?

I can usually see deleted posts and I don't see any in this thread.

One way to look for your missing post is to go to your own profile and click on 'all posts by Dennis Alwon'.
 

Dennis Alwon

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iwire said:
Are you sure they where in this thread?

I can usually see deleted posts and I don't see any in this thread.

One way to look for your missing post is to go to your own profile and click on 'all posts by Dennis Alwon'.

Maybe I was dreaming but I am quite certain I had a post in this thread right after radiopets where it ended with why not beat a dead horse.

I responded by saying lets beat it some more and went on to say I don't see the problem using a large enough staple to hold 3 wires.

Radiopet responded that most helpers don't realize that a small staple cannot support 3 wires and they would drive it to hard. I responded that I have seen some ec as well as helpers staple one wire too hard.

Boy that is weird. I wonder if radiopet remembers. I'll send him a pm.
 
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