crossman
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iwire said:The inspectors actions could be attributed to lack of knowledge or a misunderstanding of the NEC
Now THAT is unethical! How can an EI not know the code and still be an EI?
iwire said:The inspectors actions could be attributed to lack of knowledge or a misunderstanding of the NEC
Agreed, but against all hope, not all people are rational. There are some real crazy people out there.charlie b said:I agree with Bob in this and in his other recent postings. This is not about getting by; it is about doing what is right. A "win" in this situation does not require removal of the question, but rather convincing the inspector of the right answer to the question.
crossman said:Now THAT is unethical! How can an EI not know the code and still be an EI?
mivey said:While it might be easier, the world is not all black and white.
If there is going to be a big stew over the shelf that was added, then just remove it.
You shouldn't talk about inspectors like that, Bob, even this one.iwire said:I say ugly, underhanded and unnecessary.
Unfortunately, the same can be said about some electricians. :roll:crossman said:How can an EI not know the code and still be an EI?
crossman said:But Bob, surely you can understand the sentiment?
the possibility of a solution through "removal of the issue beforehand" may be the path of least resistance.
As in - the end justifies the mean?
That is a decision each person would have to make for himself.
Unethical?
Expedient?
LarryFine said:Unfortunately, the same can be said about some electricians. :roll:
crossman said:Which is why it is all the more important that an EI be thoroughly compotent in the NEC and in electrical theory and in common sense.
iwire said:I am having a hard time believing I have to defend honesty. :roll:
crossman said:So, if the EC in the OP shows up in the inspector's office with the American Heritage College Dictionary and shows the definition of a countertop, will the EI agree and say "no receptacles needed"?
iwire said:No doubt about it, the EI will change their view immediately and will probably bring the EC out for a nice dinner and a show as thanks for the correction.
iwire said:Here is what I think, there are two possibilities, the inspector is either correct or mistaken
1)If the the inspector is correct then hiding the violation is without question unethical and I would bet a violtion of the laws in any state.
2)If the inspector is mistaken (and I think they may be) there is no need to hide it. Show the inspector the code and in this case the dictionary. Call the head building official etc.
But IMO in either case choosing to hide things from the inspector is unprofessional and unethical.
That is my personal opinion, it is neither wrong or right but it is my unchanging opinion. We each have to work up to our own standards and lying to get by is not in my SOP.
....it is the responsibility of the building owner or the agent of the
building owner to identify any new or newly created bedrooms or other space USES.
M. D. said:I would not judge them if they decided to remove the shelf nor would I give a rats backside if they decided at some point that they wanted to reinstall it ,.. I would arm them with the information and definitions and let them decide what course they want to take