Grounding Receptacle Yoke to Neutral

[mbrooke]

Is it legal to connect the neutral to the yoke of the receptacle where I don't have a ground in the box? Receptacle says "UL" so I'd imagine its legal to do so?

 

[Ponchik]

This was the case long time ago. If the circuit does not have the EGC in the box then it is OK. But if it does then I would use the four prong receptacle and cord end.

 

[480sparky]

How else would you ground a metal cover?

 

[mbrooke]

How else would you ground a metal cover?

Good point.

So- I want to ask- is it legal that the neutral screw is green?

 

[480sparky]

Where does it say it can't be green?

 

[Ponchik]

How else would you ground a metal cover?

When the plate attaches to the yoke. Unless you see something that I don't.

 

[ptonsparky]

I believe that is the first receptacle I've ever seen done that way. What brand is that?

 

[Ponchik]

I believe that is the first receptacle I've ever seen done that way. What brand is that?

seems to be XIONGDA

Maybe China?

 

[Greentagger]

200.9, 200.10(B), 250.126
No , that receptacle is not designed to be terminated as you suggested.

 

[480sparky]

When the plate attaches to the yoke. Unless you see something that I don't.

WITHOUT that strap.

 

[Ponchik]

WITHOUT that strap.

Oh I see. If he removes the strap.

 

[mbrooke]

200.9, 200.10(B), 250.126
No , that receptacle is not designed to be terminated as you suggested.

Explain.

 

[mbrooke]

seems to be XIONGDA

Maybe China?

Hence why I ask. Green neutral, strap... I want to know if UL cares. Because if they do that UL listing would not be valid.

 

[mbrooke]

WITHOUT that strap.

So how do I ground the yoke if I don't have a ground in the box?

 

[Ponchik]

So how do I ground the yoke if I don't have a ground in the box?

Leave the strap attached.

 

[480sparky]

So how do I ground the yoke if I don't have a ground in the box?

My point is: Without the strap, the yoke cannot be grounded. When the yoke isn't grounded, a metal cover can't be grounded. You then have exposed, non-current-carrying parts that aren't grounded.

 

[mbrooke]

Leave the strap attached.

Alright.

 

[Ponchik]

Hence why I ask. Green neutral, strap... I want to know if UL cares. Because if they do that UL listing would not be valid.

I am sure UL cares. All we know that UL stamp on the device could be home made.

 

[mbrooke]

My point is: Without the strap, the yoke cannot be grounded. When the yoke isn't grounded, a metal cover can't be grounded. You then have exposed, non-current-carrying parts that aren't grounded.

Makes sense.

So I want to ask- is this receptacle actually UL listed?

 

[mbrooke]

I am sure UL cares. All we know that UL stamp on the device could be home made.

China is good with fakes lol.