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Locking a post like as i posted
Illegal contractors Seems to be form of censorship
What is purpose of locking a post Beyond being defined as censorship?
 
I think sometimes the moderators just get tired of seeing certain kinds of posts.

I'm not a big fan of restricting what people can say but the moderators make the rules up as they see fit and if you want to post here you just have to tolerate them.
 
Fordean said:
Locking a post like as i posted
Illegal contractors Seems to be form of censorship
What is purpose of locking a post Beyond being defined as censorship?
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Which thread are you asking about? Also if you have a question or comment about a thread or post you can hit the Report button on the bottom left of the post.
 
Three of the most common reasons for locking a thread (individual posts can be deleted but not "locked") are:
1. The thread started out with a prohibited topic (unions, politics, religion, which way up should a 120V 3 prong receptacle be mounted, etc.) and rather than removing the thread we lock it, with or without a comment.
2. The thread started out OK but drifted into a prohibited topic.
3. The thread was allowed and useful, but even after the requested answer was given the comments end up in a useless repetetive argument or wander totally off the starting topic.

Censorship is not in and of itself objectionable. In these cases, content restrictions have been publicly stated in the Forum rules and need to be uniformly enforced, whether or not we as individuals have a position on the prohibited topic. Censorship based on one position on a particular issue is more likely to be objectionable, and we try to avoid that.

Some of the prohibitions, including profanity and obscenity, are set by the owner of the Forum, and that is his privilege as the donor of this service in the first place.
 
Fordean said:
Locking a post like as i posted
Illegal contractors Seems to be form of censorship
What is purpose of locking a post Beyond being defined as censorship?
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The owner of the site, along with those designated to run it, can set rules and censor anything that doesn't fit what the owner wants on this site. It is their site they can do that.

Freedom of speech we are granted by the constitution means we can say what we want and can not be punished by the government for it, with limitations though, you can't make terroristic threats.

This comes up from time to time on major social media as well when someone gets banned or at least has content edited or deleted. The thing is the site they are using has an owner and they can set rules of what content is allowed, some like this site just happen to be a lot more strict with that content than say Facebook, Twitter, etc.
 
kwired said:
The owner of the site, along with those designated to run it, can set rules and censor anything that doesn't fit what the owner wants on this site. It is their site they can do that.

Freedom of speech we are granted by the constitution means we can say what we want and can not be punished by the government for it, with limitations though, you can't make terroristic threats.

This comes up from time to time on major social media as well when someone gets banned or at least has content edited or deleted. The thing is the site they are using has an owner and they can set rules of what content is allowed, some like this site just happen to be a lot more strict with that content than say Facebook, Twitter, etc.
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Yep. Just because you can say anything you want doesn't mean anyone has to listen.
 
Fordean said:
Locking a post like as i posted
Illegal contractors Seems to be form of censorship
What is purpose of locking a post Beyond being defined as censorship?
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Ok, new issue Had to inspect issue A client had a 300 am event At 300 in morning 4 fire trucks and ambulances showed onsite for a central station monitoting alarm (Co2) I'm guessing they called ( monitoring station) and no answer. Which prompted emergency response. ( note Not many...
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Duplication is another reason.
 
petersonra said:
but the moderators make the rules up as they see fit
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Not really, the rules are in writing and have been in place since the forums inception.

Read Before Posting: Forum Rules / Treatment of New Members

This site is designed for: Electrical Contractors Electricians Engineers Inspectors Instructors * This NEC� Forum is for those in the electrical and related industries. Questions of a "How-To" nature by persons not involved in the electrical industry will be removed without notice...
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Fordean said:
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This is a 4th reason for locking, not necessarily “illegal contractors” in that there is no way to check that. But DIYers, Handyman and non-licensed contractors or those who demonstrably show they are faking it, put the ownership of the site at risk for liability. Lawyers are always sniffing for blood in the water, so if one of these gets advice here that turns out to be wrong because respondents were not there to see all of the details, it exposes the ownership to legal costs which, even if they win, are usually substantial. So they have chosen to restrict discussions on HOW to do things to licensed contractors, engineers and other electrical professionals who would be under their own liability coverages.
 
petersonra said:
I think sometimes the moderators just get tired of seeing certain kinds of posts.

I'm not a big fan of restricting what people can say but the moderators make the rules up as they see fit and if you want to post here you just have to tolerate them.
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I know of no moderator that has "made up his own rules". As Roger stated, we have rules to go by. We may miss some or readers/posters may think they are being picked on, but that is not the case. I would like nothing more than to have everything run smoothly and not have to lock threads. The Mods (including myself) may make mistakes occasionally, but nothing on purpose or with malice. I have been shown things that I perceived were wrong but was shown a different way of looking at it, and decided to reverse a decision. Other Mods have as well.
Also, as was said, there is a report button to use if there are questions.
 
roger said:
Not really, the rules are in writing and have been in place since the forums inception.
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You are correct, sir. However, (there's always a however in life), I always wonder how some posters are able to ask a question that is obviously a violation of the rules.
 
I see most of the defense here has been by the moderators. Well, I don't even agree with the original premise that what is being discussed is censorship. Censorship removes the offending material. In the cases cited, the original post is often left up there and discussion is shut down. We have the ability to message each other individually and continue any discussion that is outside the confines of the forum. I think the moderators do exactly what they should be doing.
 
I like seeing the bad pictures or even somewhat controversial work ideas on the locked forums and then referencing them on an appropriate separate discussion. The engineers who try to diy and get shut down helps me to see what their thinking is like when they design a job and where they're coming from with their plans.
 
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