New inspector making me mad.

[AC\DC]

Does a meter that’s locked from power company meet definition of 110.26 a (1)
Says likely to require examination, adjustments, servicing, or maintenance.
It’s a meter no main how the hell am I suppose to get in there when it’s locked by power company. If power company has no working clearance then he shot out of luck enforcing this correct.
Reason is a hot tub as close by and power company was fine with owners placement.

 

[AC\DC]

What makes me mad is I had this inspected I made a post about it. I forgot about the overhead lines so owner built a covered roof. And now the new inspector not the one that originally looked at it is throwing this at me. Should of been a problem on first round.
Who’s to say I’ll call again and some one else comes and throws something else.

 

[letgomywago]

It's live parts that are serviced live so unfortunately I can see why it would count but POCO is who has to deal with it so it should be their issue. How close are you to meeting the clearance?

 

[letgomywago]

NEC covers parts the customer owns so who set the meter can and who owns it makes a difference too.

 

[AC\DC]

I don’t know any one that service live. Only thing power company does is check with cover on their meter connection. Only power company is allowed in their I am off by 3”

To me it’s power company domain. Owner owns box but we’re locked out so we don’t fit the definition for this section only power company does and if they don’t care well then inspectors should not

 

[AC\DC]

Seems like maybe a grey area but i fighting it. Be different if it’s a meter main since some one is likely to service it a locked box by another jurisdiction does not constitute “likely”

 

[AC\DC]

in reality it’s has rounded corner and if you measure to that I am 1” over 3’ but that’s not we’re I going to pick the fight. Any other ideas so far it’s 1to 1 lol

 

[letgomywago]

A lot of POCOs swap meters live

Is it the side to side measurement? Those can be slid over left and right so long as you have your depth and your 30 inches width starting from the corner it doesn't need to be centered. If it's a gutter in the way put 2 angles in the gutter and get it around the corner.

 

[AC\DC]

He stated depth. Width is fine.
On the power company debate.
Yes they work on it live but that’s their domain with their rules. So if power company says your good then you’re good. In my opinion

 

[letgomywago]

Sounds like you dig some of the yard flat and be good to go or is it a deck or something in the way?

 

[AC\DC]

I don’t think I need to do crap lol that’s my point.

 

[AC\DC]

I get what your saying but I thinks that power company rules since there the once’s servicing not the general public. Article 90 states they don’t control utilities

 

[letgomywago]

But since you've had issues with them locally is it worth blowing a chance to get a good repor with him. An inch of dirt or move a rock and you're good. Although I can't imagine how someone would be this difficult in this situation.

 

[AC\DC]

He just built a deck around part of the tub so it would be to redo part of his deck. To push it a couple inches

 

[AC\DC]

I have already caved to two things he said “I don’t think i can enforce but I want you to do this”. After that I getting kinda annoyed

I would rather work together but if issue that are not my fault and I got to fix cost me money and we’re unseen, so at some point i got to tell him to shove it
I may be combative on the web but I am usually a push over

Plus I going to approach is a nice manner not going to call him a bad name lol

 

[letgomywago]

I have already caved to two things he said “I don’t think i can enforce but I want you to do this”. After that I getting kinda annoyed

I would rather work together but if issue that are not my fault and I got to fix cost me money and we’re unseen, so at some point i got to tell him to shove it
I may be combative on the web but I am usually a push over

So about 2 months ago I had a brand new inspector who'd never done residential try to come up with something to write up and he couldn't so he said not approved because of a separate part of the house has knob n tube still live. I called him on it and asked for a code reference and then he caved when I asked him to call his boss and ask about this. Sometimes you have to train the new guys nicely and diplomaticly they're often failed contractors and may be bitter because of this. On this issue I think going higher up won't make then cave though since the definition doesn't exclude metering equipment and getting a 3rd set of eyes on the job may just make it more of a headache.

 

[AC\DC]

Transformer working clearance

During an inspection the other day i had come across a 75 kva transformer in a room that has 24" of clearance in front of it. I wrote it up because of the requirements outlined in 110.26 (2014 NEC). The electrician came back and stated it did not need the clearance because it is not likely to...

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Got to thinking of the meter applies so does a transformer and then found this debate.

 

[jim dungar]

My POCO rules, for working clearance, are not much different than those in the NEC.
Was the deck built after you installed the meter enclosure?

 

[AC\DC]

I never installed the meter I did the hot tub. it failed for overhead conductors so owner build a enclosed area now for some reason I have this issue when it was not a problem the first time.

 

[mopowr steve]

Does the roof of this hot tub enclosure have proper distance above it to the power line?