Rural shirt pocket rules

[letgomywago]

I moved to a more rural area and the amount of shirt pocket rules not even just electrical but all over the trades. It's funny but a lot of what I've been told by both other trades guys and their combo inspectors are either not backed up by the codes they think theyre citing or it'll say the opposite and they don't understand that.

What's the funniest ones you've heard? So far I've heard here.

Only greenies can be used for ground wires and again installed wrong like it was a regular wirenut

Cadet fan forced heaters should always be in the exterior wall like a baseboard

Double 5/8ths on the same side of a 2by wall is a 2hour fire wall even when it's open on the other side

That headers on load bearing walls aren't needed at all because there's no snow. Yes I have a picture and it passed framing inspection idk how.

 

[MasonF]

Bends made in pvc conduit with a hot box dont have to be counted towards the 360 degrees between pull points, only factory made 45s and 90s do.

 

[letgomywago]

Bends made in pvc conduit with a hot box dont have to be counted towards the 360 degrees between pull points, only factory made 45s and 90s do.

I've heard that one too. Lol

 

[AC\DC]

I will say it’s good practice to not have heater on outside wall because of the insulation area it eats up, but I’ll throw them there if need be.
Welcome to the coast !Lol
Guy around here likes to say “ well I can’t I force it but I want it done this way” ??? That got stopped, lol
People smoke to much weed. People need to start drinking again. Lol

 

[letgomywago]

I will say it’s good practice to not have heater on outside wall because of the insulation area it eats up, but I’ll throw them there if need be.
Welcome to the coast !Lol
Guy around here likes to say “ well I can’t I force it but I want it done this way” ??? That got stopped, lol
People smoke to much weed. People need to start drinking again. Lol

Watched 2 "carpenters" spent 2 days with a Sawzall to install this door while I was roughing in a house. Their boss swings by later and thought they did good lol

 

[letgomywago]

Also found this when someone lost a phase to their shop

 

[AC\DC]

I will say that crap would not fly here. We have different AHJ then you do. That craps garbage lol

 

[letgomywago]

I will say that crap would not fly here. We have different AHJ then you do. That craps garbage lol

Ya I hope there's few places that'll let this stuff fly passed them

 

[AC\DC]

Coosbay is like that. Seen things fly because you took inspector out to dinner. That was when I was apprenticing down there.

 

[AC\DC]

I wish that crap was here job security lol

 

[letgomywago]

Back to the discussion what's the funniest shirt pocket rule you've heard?

 

[TwoBlocked]

Here's two

Conduit fill: If you can still stick a finger in with the wires, it's OK!

Ground wire can be one size smaller than the load wires.

 

[retirede]

I had two different electricians tell me that a 120V window air conditioner costs twice as much to operate as a 240V of the same BTU.

 

[4x4dually]

Also found this when someone lost a phase to their shop View attachment 2568300 View attachment 2568301

I've seen some pretty good fluster clucks on the facebook electrical fluster clucks page....by MY GOD! That one ranks up there near the top.

 

[TwoBlocked]

Not sure if this is in the same category. Along with other work at an industrial facility, they hoped to put in a large 240 to 208 transformer because 208V 3 phase motor are much cheaper than 480V 3 phase motors. I pointed out that most 3 phase motor are dual phase. They looked at a nameplate, and sure enough...

 

[drcampbell]

I have often heard that automotive batteries should not be stored directly on a concrete floor, because concrete will suck the charge out of a lead-acid battery and deplete it. I've often seen batteries stored on a concrete floor with a barrier of wood or newspaper underneath them. I never did get a satisfactory answer about how the concrete could suck the charge out if it isn't in contact with they electrolyte or plates.

I do think I know where this half-truth originated: If you store a battery directly on a concrete floor -- in an unheated garage, without a maintenance charge, for two years or more -- it will go dead due to internal self-discharge. (and during the third winter, it's likely to freeze solid and self-destruct)

 

[Fred B]

Never open a "White" pipe when it is under pressure.

 

[Todd0x1]

I have often heard that automotive batteries should not be stored directly on a concrete floor, because concrete will suck the charge out of a lead-acid battery and deplete it. I've often seen batteries stored on a concrete floor with a barrier of wood or newspaper underneath them. I never did get a satisfactory answer about how the concrete could suck the charge out if it isn't in contact with they electrolyte or plates.

I do think I know where this half-truth originated: If you store a battery directly on a concrete floor -- in an unheated garage, without a maintenance charge, for two years or more -- it will go dead due to internal self-discharge. (and during the third winter, it's likely to freeze solid and self-destruct)

Here's an explanation of that myth

The Truth About Storing a Battery on a Concrete Floor - ODYSSEY Battery

Perhaps you have heard the misconception that you should never store a battery directly on concrete to avoid damaging it.

www.odysseybattery.com

 

[retirede]

I have often heard that automotive batteries should not be stored directly on a concrete floor, because concrete will suck the charge out of a lead-acid battery and deplete it. I've often seen batteries stored on a concrete floor with a barrier of wood or newspaper underneath them. I never did get a satisfactory answer about how the concrete could suck the charge out if it isn't in contact with they electrolyte or plates.

I do think I know where this half-truth originated: If you store a battery directly on a concrete floor -- in an unheated garage, without a maintenance charge, for two years or more -- it will go dead due to internal self-discharge. (and during the third winter, it's likely to freeze solid and self-destruct)

My dad used to tell me that one.

 

[packersparky]

One that many people seem to believe around here is that if you use receptacles facing down for light fixtures you have to use twist lock receptacles.