Ground Wire From Ground Rod

[mstrlucky74]

Looks like this #6 ground wire is run without conduit. What type of insulation would be needed? Thanks.

 

[electrofelon]

Looks like this #6 ground wire is run without conduit. What type of insulation would be needed? Thanks.

The ground rod is not required per NEC (and is stupid) so i think you can do whatever you want with it, as long as its done per the plans.

 

[infinity]

Since it can also be bare any insulation will do. If it's colored then not white or gray.

 

[tkb]

PVC coated RGS for the conduit?

 

[jumper]

PVC coated RGS for the conduit?

And 3/4" x 10' rod. Someone wants to throw money away.

 

[mstrlucky74]

Since it can also be bare any insulation will do. If it's colored then not white or gray.

So you can run bare or thhn in direct contact with earth?

 

[mstrlucky74]

And 3/4" x 10' rod. Someone wants to throw money away.

Why exactly is it a waste?

 

[infinity]

So you can run bare or thhn in direct contact with earth?

Yes.

It's a waste because look at the size of that huge concrete electrode that's buried in the ground compared to the rod.

 

[JohnE]

Why exactly is it a waste?

A lot of good info has been posted on this over the years here. A quick search should dig some up.

 

[jumper]

Why exactly is it a waste?

Rod not needed, so no GEC either. Rob Roy pipe to pole lights, not normal. Rob Roy is $$$$. Add Calweld connection also.

 

[growler]

The ground rod is not required per NEC (and is stupid) so i think you can do whatever you want with it, as long as its done per the plans.

It's a waste because look at the size of that huge concrete electrode that's buried in the ground compared to the rod.

I kind of disagree with you guys. Not in theory but in practice.

The NEC is not a design manual, it is a set of minimum safety standards. These drawings are engineering specs of how they want the light pole installed.

It may be a waste of money but that's not up to the electrician. The electrician must install according to job specs.

 

[jumper]

I kind of disagree with you guys. Not in theory but in practice.

The NEC is not a design manual, it is a set of minimum safety standards. These drawings are engineering specs of how they want the light pole installed.

It may be a waste of money but that's not up to the electrician. The electrician must install according to job specs.

Efelon wrote to just do it to code and not specs/plans, Infinity made no reference as such, he and I only said it was prolly a waste.

 

[infinity]

I kind of disagree with you guys. Not in theory but in practice.

The NEC is not a design manual, it is a set of minimum safety standards. These drawings are engineering specs of how they want the light pole installed.

It may be a waste of money but that's not up to the electrician. The electrician must install according to job specs.

I wasn't suggesting that they don't install as shown just that the rod won't do much.

 

[electrofelon]

I kind of disagree with you guys. Not in theory but in practice.

The NEC is not a design manual, it is a set of minimum safety standards. These drawings are engineering specs of how they want the light pole installed.

It may be a waste of money but that's not up to the electrician. The electrician must install according to job specs.

I fully agree. If it is on the plans, you must install even if not required by NEC. My point was since it is not required by the NEC, there are no requirements beyond any instructions stated on the plans.

 

[cdslotz]

Looks like this #6 ground wire is run without conduit. What type of insulation would be needed? Thanks.

I always used copper solid...I also always used #4

 

[jumper]

I always used copper solid...I also always used #4

#4 to a rod? Why?

 

[infinity]

#4 solid yuck.

 

[kwired]

#4 to a rod? Why?

Same reasons to use PVC coated RMC and cadweld

 

[electrofelon]

#4 to a rod? Why?

Remember the size of the gec depends in installation method, not just type of electrode. FwIW.

 

[infinity]

Same reasons to use PVC coated RMC and cadweld

But why solid?