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    Recessed Vs. Surface Panel Mounting

    How many of you think there's much of a labor difference mounting a branch panel board recessed as opposed to surface for a new construction project? I understand surface many times has floor to ceiling strut. Thanks.

    #2
    If it's surface-mounted, when will they finish the wall to which you attach it? Recessed means you can complete the panel during rough-in.

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      #3
      Too broad a question to answer without more detail. Labor may be equivalent, but surface-mounting should be done more neatly.

      I would base the decision on the construction, not the relative labor. It's usually an easy choice when the environment is known.
      Master Electrician
      Electrical Contractor
      Richmond, VA

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        #4
        Originally posted by MAC702 View Post
        If it's surface-mounted, when will they finish the wall to which you attach it? Recessed means you can complete the panel during rough-in.
        Mounted on concrete wall. No finish.

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          #5
          I'd hate to try and recess a panel in a concrete wall...

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            #6
            What are the mounting methods being used in each type of installation? Is the recessed being mounted to the studs?
            Rob

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            All responses based on the 2017 NEC unless otherwise noted

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              #7
              Originally posted by infinity View Post
              What are the mounting methods being used in each type of installation? Is the recessed being mounted to the studs?
              Recessed to studs and surface to concrete wall.

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                #8
                So are we talking about two different jobs and not two different options for the same job? Geez, getting details to answer questions here is sometimes like pulling teeth.

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                  #9
                  Given that Romex (R) must be supported within X" of a box (ie main panel), I've seen a lot of panels in basements with concrete walls, but the panels are mounted on a "short wall" descending from the joists above. The short wall may be anchored to the concrete wall at the bottom. The short wall is usually plywood over 2x4s. So the panel is actually surface mounted on a wooden wall. This gives a wooden area where the Romex (R) can be supported.

                  Who builds the short wall? I'm assuming either the electrician, or a carpenter at the electrician's request.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mstrlucky74 View Post

                    Recessed to studs and surface to concrete wall.
                    Then just about no difference in mounting. I would say that drilling into the wall can be less of a hassle than dealing with mounting directly to the sides of the metal studs.
                    Rob

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by infinity View Post

                      Then just about no difference in mounting. I would say that drilling into the wall can be less of a hassle than dealing with mounting directly to the sides of the metal studs.
                      What used to attach panel to studs?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mstrlucky74 View Post
                        What used to attach panel to studs?

                        We use nuts and bolts. Typically 1/4" for light panels.
                        Rob

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                        All responses based on the 2017 NEC unless otherwise noted

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                          #13
                          The labor for the panel is the same.
                          Strut, hardware, etc are labored on their own

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                            #14
                            I never did like a 'captive' panelboard

                            ~RJ~

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