surface mounted box

[electricalperson]

i recently had to install a 4 inch square deep box on the surface of a celing because the old box was an old work box that was hacked in with 4 BX cables and i had to add another wire to that box. the problem is the home owner does not like the way the box looks. i dont think there is enough room in the celing to mount a box thats able to support a fixture and hold all those conductors. anyone have any suguesstions on a decent looking box i could use?

 

[mdshunk]

Wiremold V5748-2

 

[Dennis Alwon]

i recently had to install a 4 inch square deep box on the surface of a celing because the old box was an old work box that was hacked in with 4 BX cables and i had to add another wire to that box. the problem is the home owner does not like the way the box looks. i dont think there is enough room in the celing to mount a box thats able to support a fixture and hold all those conductors. anyone have any suguesstions on a decent looking box i could use?

Use one of those retro fan box kits and use a deep octagon instead of the one provided.

 

[electricalperson]

Use one of those retro fan box kits and use a deep octagon instead of the one provided.

i thought of using a fan kit like that but id have to see if it would work. the joists might be too far apart to use that

 

[Dennis Alwon]

i thought of using a fan kit like that but id have to see if it would work. the joists might be too far apart to use that

I think they span 24".

 

[electricalperson]

before the plan was to build a little wooden box to cover up my 4 inch square but i guess that plan was changed.

 

[mdshunk]

There are blankup canopies with a marked cubic inch capacity. If used with that existing box, would that do the trick for you?

Edit.. I just noticed you have a fixture on it too. You must have put the 4-square near the fixture and just ran one whip over to the fixture box, huh?

 

[electricalperson]

There are blankup canopies with a marked cubic inch capacity. If used with that existing box, would that do the trick for you?

Edit.. I just noticed you have a fixture on it too. You must have put the 4-square near the fixture and just ran one whip over to the fixture box, huh?

i was able to screw the box to the celing and use a plaster ring to mount the fixture too.

 

[electricalperson]

if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block

 

[electricalperson]

im pretty sure the roof is made out of ~1" thick boards. anyone see a problem screwing a box directly to those boards?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block

The octagon would not have to be exposed. Hold the bracket up higher.

 

[Buck Parrish]

if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block

What about a medallion between the mud ring and the light canopy.
You would have a space in between the cieling and the medallion.
But it might pass.

 

[electricalperson]

What about a medallion between the mud ring and the light canopy.
You would have a space in between the cieling and the medallion.
But it might pass.

the entire 4 inch square is on the surface