Siemens 15 amp plug-in 2 pole dual function AFCI/GFCI breakers

[Marty Lustig]

Does Siemens make a 15 amp plug-in TWO pole AFCI/GFCI circuit breaker? If you know of a source, I'd appreciate a link.

 

[jaggedben]

Q215AFC
Google it.

 

[jaggedben]

Murray MP215AFC is physically the same and also listed for some Siemens panels.

 

[Marty Lustig]

Q215AFC
Google it.

Jaggedben, thank you. When I do Google [h=1]Siemens Q215AFC, what I get is "15-Amp 2 Pole 120-Volt Combination Type Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter by Siemens". But that's not "dual function" AFCI and GFCI. Any other thoughts? Maybe i'm missing something??[/h]

 

[Marty Lustig]

Jaggedben, thank you. When I do Google Siemens Q215AFC, what I get is "15-Amp 2 Pole 120-Volt Combination Type Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter by Siemens". But that's not "dual function" AFCI and GFCI. Any other thoughts? Maybe i'm missing something??

Sorry about the bold!! Nothing intended by it.

 

[Marty Lustig]

Murray MP215AFC is physically the same and also listed for some Siemens panels.

Thank you, as well, for the Murray lead. But it is also only AFCI, not dual function AFCI/GFCI.

 

[jaggedben]

Sorry I missed the GFCI part. No wonder that was too easy. :slaphead:

I'm guessing nobody makes what you're after then. (it would presumably be a Q215DF). If you just need it for MWBCs there may be a handle-tie solution.

 

[LarryFine]

15-Amp 2 Pole 120-Volt Combination Type Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter by Siemens. But that's not "dual function" AFCI and GFCI.

What does combination mean? Series and parallel arcing?

 

[480sparky]

What does combination mean? Series and parallel arcing?

Series or parallel arcs.

 

[kwired]

Sorry I missed the GFCI part. No wonder that was too easy. :slaphead:

I'm guessing nobody makes what you're after then. (it would presumably be a Q215DF). If you just need it for MWBCs there may be a handle-tie solution.

GFCI function will not work on handle tied units, current that leaves one pole must return on the load neutral of same pole or it will trip, to get multiwire GFCI you must have a unit with all monitored load wires run through a common sense coil. This applies to all makes/brands of GFCI's.

 

[Sierrasparky]

Why not just install the GFCI where needed and the AFCI at the breaker?
GFCI need not protect the branch circuit just the outlet generally.