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    Lighted switches w/ CFL or LED loads?

    First time in years I've bought lighted switches (Leviton, from Big Orange); they're marked "Not for use with LED of CFL bulbs". Does that really matter? The old neon-lit switches used the leakage through the incandescent lamp to make them light- CFLs don't have enough? LEDs?

    The place I'm installing them doesn't get much use and still has a lot incandescent lamps so it shouldn't be a problem for a while, but maybe next year somebody goes and swaps out all the old lamps for LEDs.

    #2
    I don't know about cfl but an led lamp will glow faintly when the switch is off.
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      #3
      Originally posted by ActionDave View Post
      I don't know about cfl but an led lamp will glow faintly when the switch is off.
      CFL's can do the same

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        #4
        Originally posted by ActionDave View Post
        I don't know about cfl but an led lamp will glow faintly when the switch is off.
        That's pretty much what I expect.... and it's just a little extra light to find help find the switch .

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          #5
          You need a switch plate with a built-in night-light. Weren't there some mentioned here that just slip over the switch (or was it a duplex outlet) and use spring pressure to grab onto the screw terminals on the device?

          Do they make switches that need a hot lead just to make a night-light light?

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            #6
            Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
            You need a switch plate with a built-in night-light. Weren't there some mentioned here that just slip over the switch (or was it a duplex outlet) and use spring pressure to grab onto the screw terminals on the device?

            Do they make switches that need a hot lead just to make a night-light light?
            It is for duplex outlets only. The screw placement and energization on switches is not consistent enough to support that use.

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              #7
              Originally posted by zbang View Post
              That's pretty much what I expect.... and it's just a little extra light to find help find the switch .
              Does some company make one with a neutral connection? That would solved the problem of of not having an incandescent type lamp in series with the lighted switch.
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                #8
                Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                You need a switch plate with a built-in night-light. Weren't there some mentioned here that just slip over the switch (or was it a duplex outlet) and use spring pressure to grab onto the screw terminals on the device?
                I commented in that thread about the switch/receptacle night lights. With the receptacle night lights still in my head (that are always on) I was thinking about where they got the neutral from with the switch. Then the rusty gears started to turn in my mind and, DUH, HELLO! the night light is in series with the load just like any other switch with the light built in.

                -Hal

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                  #9
                  You need one of these. Of course, you have to have hot + neutral in the box!




                  There are some pretty pictures about lighted switches at https://willnicholes.com/cflswitches.htm

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                    You need a switch plate with a built-in night-light. Weren't there some mentioned here that just slip over the switch (or was it a duplex outlet) and use spring pressure to grab onto the screw terminals on the device?
                    They would be the same as a lighted switch: bulb in parallel with switch, powered through load.
                    Master Electrician
                    Electrical Contractor
                    Richmond, VA

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by GoldDigger View Post
                      The screw placement and energization on switches is not consistent enough to support that use.
                      Nonetheless, they do exist.
                      Master Electrician
                      Electrical Contractor
                      Richmond, VA

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                        #12
                        Leviton has some with an LED light that needs a neutral (but then it doesn't rely on leakage current through a switch loop):

                        https://www.leviton.com/en/products/6526-w

                        The pilot light switches have been around for a while but they're the opposite of what you want for seeing the switch in the dark: the light is only ON when the switch is already turned on. They're most useful to confirm that a load is turned on that you can't readily see or have access to.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by synchro View Post
                          Leviton has some with an LED light that needs a neutral (... it doesn't rely on leakage current through a switch loop):

                          https://www.leviton.com/en/products/6526-w
                          I would say that's exactly what the OP is looking for.

                          -Hal

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