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    Can anyone tell me where I can find spec sheets/U.L. listing or approvals for American FPE style breakers? I have an inspector asking for them for a small job I'm looking to install.
    Thank you,
    Joe

    #2
    Don’t they have a UL sticker on them?

    I wasn’t aware they were available, but that means little.
    Tom
    TBLO

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      #3
      The UL listing and issue number are on the label. Should also get info in the box with more details.

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        #4
        Originally posted by jrvariel48 View Post
        Can anyone tell me where I can find spec sheets/U.L. listing or approvals for American FPE style breakers? I have an inspector asking for them for a small job I'm looking to install.
        Thank you,
        Joe
        I think you are asking for documentation on "American Electric" breakers that are replacements for the FPE "Stab-loc" series, but some are not understanding that is what you are asking about.
        I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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          #5
          Originally posted by kwired View Post
          I think you are asking for documentation on "American Electric" breakers that are replacements for the FPE "Stab-loc" series, but some are not understanding that is what you are asking about.
          You nailed that! There should still be a sticker somewhere.
          Tom
          TBLO

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            #6
            Originally posted by kwired View Post
            I think you are asking for documentation on "American Electric" breakers that are replacements for the FPE "Stab-loc" series, but some are not understanding that is what you are asking about.
            Well they never co-existed. FPE sold the whole (USA) stab lok product line to ACBC in 1988

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              #7
              Originally posted by zog View Post
              Well they never co-existed. FPE sold the whole (USA) stab lok product line to ACBC in 1988
              I think OP's inspector wants verification that the "American Electric" breakers are listed to be installed in the "FPE" loadcenter. Since they took over the line the chance is pretty good, kind of no different than a Siemens breaker in an old ITE panel.
              I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ptonsparky View Post
                Don’t they have a UL sticker on them?

                I wasn’t aware they were available, but that means little.
                I believe they do. The inspector is looking for documentation.
                Thanks for responding

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by kwired View Post
                  I think you are asking for documentation on "American Electric" breakers that are replacements for the FPE "Stab-loc" series, but some are not understanding that is what you are asking about.
                  Yessir! That's exactly what I'm looking for! I'm sorry I didn't explain it correctly, but that is what I'm looking for.
                  Thank you!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kwired View Post
                    I think OP's inspector wants verification that the "American Electric" breakers are listed to be installed in the "FPE" loadcenter. Since they took over the line the chance is pretty good, kind of no different than a Siemens breaker in an old ITE panel.
                    I sent the paperwork to the inspector and he told me "[COLOR=#1D2228]There is no mention that these are replacement breakers for Fed Pacific."

                    [/COLOR]I responded "[COLOR=#1D2228]Paul they are Stab Lok UL listed breakers. They can’t use the Federal Pacific name as they were bought out in 1988 by American Breaker Corp [/COLOR][COLOR=#1D2228]This is the only paperwork available and obviously they are FP replacement as there is no other breaker of that construction and style

                    [/COLOR]
                    His response today "it's your license[COLOR=#1D2228], a permit is not required for replacement of breakers"

                    What does that mean?? He doesn't trust the documentation I sent to him??
                    [/COLOR]

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jrvariel48 View Post
                      I sent the paperwork to the inspector and he told me "[COLOR=#1D2228]There is no mention that these are replacement breakers for Fed Pacific."

                      [/COLOR]I responded "[COLOR=#1D2228]Paul they are Stab Lok UL listed breakers. They can’t use the Federal Pacific name as they were bought out in 1988 by American Breaker Corp [/COLOR][COLOR=#1D2228]This is the only paperwork available and obviously they are FP replacement as there is no other breaker of that construction and style

                      [/COLOR]
                      His response today "it's your license[COLOR=#1D2228], a permit is not required for replacement of breakers"

                      What does that mean?? He doesn't trust the documentation I sent to him??
                      [/COLOR]
                      He may not, but he doesn’t need to say yay or nay, you do. Are you comfortable with them?
                      Tom
                      TBLO

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ptonsparky View Post
                        He may not, but he doesn’t need to say yay or nay, you do. Are you comfortable with them?
                        Thanks for responding. Yes, I've used these breakers for years and I don't see a problem with them. The potential is always there, but I think that goes for any UL listed device.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jrvariel48 View Post
                          I sent the paperwork to the inspector and he told me "[COLOR=#1D2228]There is no mention that these are replacement breakers for Fed Pacific."

                          [/COLOR]I responded "[COLOR=#1D2228]Paul they are Stab Lok UL listed breakers. They can’t use the Federal Pacific name as they were bought out in 1988 by American Breaker Corp [/COLOR][COLOR=#1D2228]This is the only paperwork available and obviously they are FP replacement as there is no other breaker of that construction and style

                          [/COLOR]
                          His response today "it's your license[COLOR=#1D2228], a permit is not required for replacement of breakers"

                          What does that mean??
                          He doesn't trust the documentation I sent to him??
                          [/COLOR]
                          It means he refuses to admit he may have been wrong about something, so finds a way to twist things back to it is your fault if something bad happens, which is kind of true whether he was involved or not, you do have liability insurance for a reason, though if something bad happens you still have headaches involved before everything is finally settled.
                          I live for today, I'm just a day behind.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by kwired View Post
                            It means he refuses to admit he may have been wrong about something, so finds a way to twist things back to it is your fault if something bad happens, which is kind of true whether he was involved or not, you do have liability insurance for a reason, though if something bad happens you still have headaches involved before everything is finally settled.
                            Funny, but very true!

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                              #15
                              The dealer should be able to get papers on them.
                              Yes, I'll be happy to do a first class job for less than anyone else and take a dollar a week for 10 years.

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