EP in small residential 'wiring' closet
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Frank DuVal
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Well, a 26 door is 30" wide, and you need 30" clearance. But then there are "stops" inside the 30" , so not really 30", you need a 28 door if the inspector pulls a tape.
26 is 2 feet 6 inches in door speak.
26 is 2 feet 6 inches in door speak.
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If you are asking whether the presence of a door within 36" of the front of the panel would be a violation of working space, that answer is no. Nobody will try to work on the panel when the door is closed, and when the door is open there is plenty of space in front of the panel. But as Frank pointed out, you need a total of 30" left-to-right for the entire depth of 36 inches. A door frame that does not have a full 30" of clear space would result in a violation.
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Tom
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If the door is 28 inches wide and the space from the panel to the inside wall of the door is less than 36" then I believe it is a violation
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- Lockport, IL
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- Retired Electrical Engineer
Dennis, take a look at Frank's post #2. The figure "28" is not a size in inches, but rather a designation (not unlike a 2x4 to a carpenter).
I disagree. The numbers in post 2 would correspond to the rough in dimensions.
A 28” door finished opening is 28-1/4 minus the stops or about 27-1/2” in most cases.
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You'll have to take that up with Frank. It was his numbers.
But I think we all agree that the final, installed, width of the opening has to be at least 30", or there is a violation of working space.
Barbqranch
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The door is designated as 2668. If that were inches, then it would only be 5 foot 8 inches tall, rather than 6 foot 8 inches. To make the 30 inch opening, though, the door should be a 2868. That would be nominally 32 inches wide, leaving plenty of room for the stops and hinges.
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Would it not have to be 2872, or some similar designation that assures 72 inches of height while standing in the doorway?
Barbqranch
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68 refers to 6 foot 8 inches.
RumRunner
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72 inches (6ft) is not a standard residential door height. Save for a repurposed attic room for the college kid who moved back with mom and dad.
The 2872 is a door chart for door hangers.
2872 is equal to 32 inches wide by 7 ft 2 inches high.
28 is 2 ft 8 inches while 72 is 7 ft 2 inches.
Think rebar chart.
Construction steel workers call the sizes in whole numbers.
Sizes are in eighth of an inch increments (eg #3 is 3/8, #5 is 5/8. . .#8 is 8/8 0r 1 )
LarryFine
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Just like fluorescent tubes.
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I agree a 20 door is 2'0" or 24" so a 2668 is a 2'6" x 6'8" or 30" x 80". Given that and assuming that is in front of the panel then IMO the install is compliant
Buck Parrish
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I wouldn't let you install it in a closet. Even if you call it a wiring closet. Then every one with a panel in a closet can sat that's a wiring closet :happysad:
romex jockey
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well.....i suppose i'm a 'closet spark' then....:ashamed:
today's gem...>
~RJ~
today's gem...>
~RJ~
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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Wow.
romex jockey
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It's my daily dose from the 'land code forgot' Larry.....~RJ~
~RJ~
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It's my daily dose from the 'land code forgot' Larry.....
Yeah that would not fly around here. Violation for sure
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