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    Inspector crazy or me?

    I installed this box on a block wall to hold a bathroom vanity light. (I cut a hole in the block and tapcon'ed the bracket to the block after flattening it out.)

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-1...-40R/202077339

    Inspector's comment: "the vanity box is not rated for fixtures"

    True or not?

    #2
    Going from memory, the NEC allows a 6 pound rating on 1-gang boxes. So, the inspector is not right as long as you're within that rating.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Coppersmith View Post
      I installed this box on a block wall to hold a bathroom vanity light. (I cut a hole in the block and tapcon'ed the bracket to the block after flattening it out.)

      https://www.homedepot.com/p/Carlon-1...-40R/202077339

      Inspector's comment: "the vanity box is not rated for fixtures"

      True or not?
      The Q&A in your link says not for fixtures. I agree. Most likely would work until you’re well past retirement.
      Tom
      TBLO

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        #4
        Originally posted by ptonsparky View Post
        The Q&A in your link says not for fixtures. I agree. Most likely would work until you’re well past retirement.
        I'm not sure which question you are referring to. The only question I see that is related is "Is this structurally sound enough to mount a vanity sconce on". Since the question was not answered by the manufacturer but instead by a bunch of random people I don't take the answers as authoritative.
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          #5
          What first comes to mind is that fixture boxes have #8 screws not #6, but I am not sure 8's are required for fixtures anywhere. 410.36(A) sends you to 314 but nothings specifically requires #8 screws or a box specifically desinged for a fixture. Maybe dig into the listing/instructions for a single gang box and see if says not for fixtures?
          Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

          "You can't generalize"

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            #6
            At one time, wall mount fixtures were allowed to be mounted with 6/32 screws

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              #7
              Originally posted by JDB3 View Post
              At one time, wall mount fixtures were allowed to be mounted with 6/32 screws
              Are they not now?
              Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

              "You can't generalize"

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                #8
                Originally posted by peter d View Post
                Going from memory, the NEC allows a 6 pound rating on 1-gang boxes.
                Indeed, 314.27(A)(1) Exception (which requires (2) #6 screws or larger)

                Cheers, Wayne

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by wwhitney View Post
                  Indeed, 314.27(A)(1) Exception (which requires (2) #6 screws or larger)

                  Cheers, Wayne
                  There it is, thanks
                  Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                  "You can't generalize"

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                    #10
                    I sent a message to the GC asking the weight of the proposed fixtures.

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                      #11
                      What does the fixture weigh?

                      314.27(A)(1) Vertical Surface Outlets. Boxes used at luminaire or
                      lampholder outlets in or on a vertical surface shall be iden-
                      tified and marked on the interior of the box to indicate the
                      maximum weight of the luminaire that is permitted to be
                      supported by the box if other than 23 kg (50 lb).
                      Exception: A vertically mounted luminaire or lampholder
                      weighing not more than 3 kg (6 lb) shall be permitted to be
                      supported on other boxes or plaster rings that are secured
                      to other boxes, provided that the luminaire or its supporting
                      yoke, or the lampholder, is secured to the box with no fewer
                      than two No. 6 or larger screws
                      Rob

                      Moderator

                      All responses based on the 2017 NEC unless otherwise noted

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                        #12
                        From the Home Depot description: "The Zip Box Blue 1-Gang 20 cu. in. Old Work Non-Metallic Switch and Outlet Box are designed to work with non-metallic sheathed cable in accordance with Article 314 of the NEC."

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                          From the Home Depot description: "The Zip Box Blue 1-Gang 20 cu. in. Old Work Non-Metallic Switch and Outlet Box are designed to work with non-metallic sheathed cable in accordance with Article 314 of the NEC."

                          So should be fine for a lighting outlet.
                          Ethan Brush - East West Electric. NY, WA. MA

                          "You can't generalize"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by electrofelon View Post
                            So should be fine for a lighting outlet.
                            I keep forgetting that "outlet" doesn't necessarily mean a 3-prong duplex!

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                              #15
                              What kind of fixture are you hanging? And, how is it secured?

                              Some bar lights can be secured to the box or to the wall. I've had to scoot fixtures slightly to where they don't line up with box holes and then secured them to the wall.

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